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hesgut Pillar of the Community 1028 Posts	Posted 09/28/2011 11:15 pm Yeah, I'm with you on this one. I see an original coin here and one I'd go 64RD on, maybe even 65. I'm also one of those that seems to see cleaning/dipping/etc everywhere even without merit. Send it to NGC/ANACS/ICG Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16680 Posts	Posted 09/28/2011 11:30 pm Thanks hesgut ;-) I've already decided on NGC. I am a life member of the ANA, so I think we get direct submit privileges. I love the PCGS holders and the fact they are in my backyard, but this has happened to me too many times when I know darn well the coin is legit. I once submitted a 1943 Jefferson nickel that came out of an original confirmed Raymond Waite album with the most stunning multi-color toning I have ever seen. Guess what, Questionable Color. I guess some coins are just too unbelieveable to them...I don't know. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
hesgut Pillar of the Community 1028 Posts	Posted 09/29/2011 12:00 am Well, I guess from the standpoint of the coin collecting public, I suppose I'd rather have some legit coins tuned away than ever allow an altered one slabbed. I think PCGS is best with that, but I have personally seen a circulated IHC that had an old cleaning with a good retoning get slabbed by PCGS. As far as the Wayte raymond folders....some of those coins turned out looking crazy though. Toned like a rainbow just like some coins that were treated in such a manner to look that way. So once again, I suppose I'd rather have had the true one turned away than have PCGS start taking guesses. All that being said, they clearly missed the ball on this one. Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 09/29/2011 12:40 am Quote: Those "graders" at PCGS called this 91/Questionable Color. Can you believe that! Huh. I wonder if they'd BB that if Rick Snow submitted it? Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16680 Posts	Posted 09/29/2011 02:24 am DV, Look at all the corrosion on it too...and that big hole. PCGS missed that too. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
johnny54321 Rest in Peace United States 4849 Posts	Posted 09/29/2011 03:14 am That's lame. I'm sorry Dave, you were robbed. That looks like a problem free coin to me. Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16680 Posts	Posted 09/29/2011 5:23 pm Thanks John. Can't wait to get it out of that holder. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
Chancellor Sutler Pillar of the Community United States 1372 Posts	Posted 09/29/2011 9:24 pm a wood cutting band saw works well for that ... Gorgeous coin. Why did the ANA switch to NGC? Hmmm. Chance Report this Post to the Staff
eddiespin Pillar of the Community United States 1547 Posts	Posted 09/29/2011 9:58 pm Quote: Well, the verdict is in and I'm ticked! Those "graders" at PCGS called this 91/Questionable Color. It might grade at NGC but I'll tell you if you don't think their "standards" on toning are just as squirrely you haven't hung out on the NGC boards long enough to see the examples for yourself. And, I'm talking on IHCs, too, just like this one, that look perfect. If I had the time, I'd go there and pull out the threads for you. Report this Post to the Staff
DavidZerbato Pillar of the Community United States 1081 Posts	Posted 09/29/2011 10:00 pm It's funny b/c I had a 1902 MS RD IHC come back from NGC as altered color. Looked very similar to yours. Had great mint luster and cartwheel effect. I don't know what they were looking at. Report this Post to the Staff
upstate Pillar of the Community United States 3283 Posts	Posted 09/30/2011 09:24 am Seems like ANACS is the only way to go considering all the weird stuff I've seen lately. Your coin is beautiful by the way Dave. I be very unhappy if I were you. Total rip off. Report this Post to the Staff
IowaHawkeye Valued Member United States 72 Posts	Posted 09/30/2011 10:13 am Looking forward to seeing what NGC says. That is a beautiful coin... Report this Post to the Staff
coinguybrian Rest in Peace United States 5375 Posts	Posted 09/30/2011 2:02 pm 65 RED imo. PCGS goofed. Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16680 Posts	Posted 09/30/2011 5:08 pm Thanks for all your support in these trying times..lol! Yeah, might be ANACS. Hmmmm? swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
SHAFTA9a Bedrock of the Community Canada 10743 Posts	Posted 09/30/2011 5:13 pm I said it would come back MS-65RD from PCGS, well... I guess they goofed. Yes, Dave, send it to ANACS, and it will still be a MS-65RD I'll bet Beautiful looking coin I can't see ant questionable color on it. Report this Post to the Staff
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