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Rest in Peace
United States
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United States Code
TITLE 18
PART I
CHAPTER 17
§ 331. Mutilation, diminution, and falsification of coins
Whoever fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates, impairs, diminishes,
falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the mints of the United States, or any foreign coins which are by law made current or are in actual use or circulation as money within the United States; or whoever fraudulently possesses, passes, utters, publishes, or sells, or attempts to pass, utter, publish, or sell, or brings into the United States, any such coin, knowing the same to be altered, defaced, mutilated, impaired, diminished, falsified, scaled, or lightened Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. Emphasis mineAs long as you're not doing it fraudulently (removal of silver from a dime), you're cool. "Ain't this a purty hobo nickel design?" is not being fraudulent. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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And it is illigal to spit on a public sidewalk where I live but so far no spitting police ever show up. If TB becomes epidemic, you can bet they'll enforce it. |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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More quotes about coins.  Quote:
Coins - Federal Regulations
Code 31 CFR 82.2, specifically allows that the "prohibition contained in §82.1 against the treatment of 5-cent coins and 1-cent coins shall not apply to the treatment of these coins for educational, amusement, novelty, jewelry, and similar purposes as long as ... the treatment makes it clear that such treatment is not intended as a means by which to profit solely from the value of the metal content of the coins." Read together, the defacement of coins for artistic and entertainment is not illegal as long as the intent is clear and the consumer is not misled. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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"Fraudulently falsifies" is a little redundant, no? :P
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Bedrock of the Community
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You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Good luck guys. Guess not, we've led him to that bit about it has to be fraudulent to be illegal, but we haven't gotten him to drink it yet. Don't think he should call himself a horse though. |
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Valued Member
Australia
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 hi all , I see a lot of arguement over this carving of coins ,illegal or legal , does not matter to me , I have bought some from usa and also from au and I am quite happy with them . now I tell you this ,,quote ( how can it be illegal and inforced by the law in both countrys , when people are making a living out of doing that ) ( carving coins ) and these people have shops where they sell from and also travel around the country selling carved coins at the shows , exhibitions , and fairs .. going by this it is not illegal or it is a law that is not worth of policing .. I REST MY CASE .. ,, kel ,, Edited by keldaw2222
10/20/2012 02:23 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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there are also a lot of laws about kiling other people. robbing them, robbing stores, etc. Yet for some reason this too goes on and on and on. Very Possibly if more people would worry about those crimes, what happens to coins wouldn't matter.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You know what's a law in my home state?
If you're in a "gasoline-powered conveyance" (car, truck, etc.) and you're approached by "a rider or horse-powered conveyance" (so in this day and age: the Amish), you're expected to pull over and take your car apart so it won't spook their horses, and if you can't take the car apart, you have to cover it completely with a dustcloth. Actual law on the actual books.
Ohio has the following rule: "If two trains are approaching each other on a single track, both must stop until the other has passed."
There are a couple of states--PA is one of them--where it's illegal to sleep in a refrigerator.
I mean, if we want to start getting into laws, and enforcing them and what's feasible and what's not, I could keep you guys here all day with stories.
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Bedrock of the Community
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GA you cant walk down the street with an ice cream cone in your back pocket.
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Valued Member
United States
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Never knew I was such a law breaker!    Got the passport on a Reservation in MI and smooshed a cent at the Smithsonian in DC. Smooshing cents is celebrated everywhere! PS: I vow to only smoosh pre 82 copper cents in the future.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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You know what's a law in my home state?
If you're in a "gasoline-powered conveyance" (car, truck, etc.) and you're approached by "a rider or horse-powered conveyance" (so in this day and age: the Amish), you're expected to pull over and take your car apart so it won't spook their horses, and if you can't take the car apart, you have to cover it completely with a dustcloth. Actual law on the actual books. Not trying to hijack the thread but since a stupid law was brought up I figured I would share these. There is a law in S.C. that you can beat your wife as long as you do it on the steps of the courthouse on Sundays. It created allot of attention in the news around here about 8 or 9 years ago so they may have changed it. In NC these laws are on the books, Horses may not be kept in bathtubs and Elephants may not be used to plow cotton fields. If a man and a woman who aren't married go to a hotel/motel and register themselves as married then, according to state law, they are legally married. In Charlotte NC Women must have their bodies covered by at least 16 yards of cloth at all times, there are allot of women breaking this law even in the winter. There are some real stupid laws still on the books from the 1800's all over the country |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I recently visited the Universal theme parks in Orlando, FL. Wow, great stuff (mostly Islands of Adventure, but both parks are really cool), and in many gift shops and around the park there were the penny squashing presses.
I don't collect those nor do they tempt me to collect (ok, they kinda do), but I got to thinking, as the collector I am, just what it would take to amass and maintain such a collection. I'm a "completist" so I of course would need to get one from every die set. I didn't check to see if each "press" was different at Universal. And I have no way of knowing if they change patterns periodically.
But because these presses are everywhere across the US and I'm sure you can buy a press and order your own custom dies, I imagine it would be nigh impossible to collect all of them. I imagine it would be like trying to collect one of each Hard Rock Cafe pin ever made. Woof.
By the way, I highly recommend the Universal theme parks in Orland (no, not affiliated, just know a great thing when I see one).
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Bedrock of the Community
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Elephants may not be used to plow cotton fields. How was this ever an issue? |
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New Member
United States
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The way I see it when I come across a coin I own it. The government dictates that I can't commit fraud with it, but otherwise its mine. That's why I take issue with the idea that I can't melt it down for the metal.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Actually if history has taught us anything it should be that we do not own the coins we have in our possession, They are just out on loan to us to use to pay debts. They can be asked to be returned to them at any time they wish. They did it with the Gold coins and they can do it with any other coin in circulation at any time they wish and make it illegal for anyone to keep the coins they have asked to be turned in to them. They will usually give you face value for the coins and that doesn't matter if the coins metal content is worth 10x what the face value is. You would have a choice to turn the coins in at face value or get them taken from you and you receive nothing but a fine or jail time for keeping their property from them when they have asked for it to be returned. Its about the same as these foreign Governments charging these nurses and doctors that are given coins for helping their family members and when they go to come back home they are arrested because it is illegal to take their coins out of the country. The country that issued the coins are the rightful owners of the coins and they can make it legal or illegal for someone to keep possession of them. Not saying I like it but it is what it is
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