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Pillar of the Community
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Sure we can always print more money, until the world decides to take away the keys to the printing Ferrari (WRC), and then what?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think he was making the point that our fiat system prevents this country from defaulting on its debts because printing more cash is an available strategy. I think he meant no more and no less.
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United States
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Quote: ...Greenspan's policy of taking interest rates to historic lows at the Fed were responsible for the subprime mortgage and credit crises and the bubble in the real estate and stock markets which culminated in the 2008 market meltdown and real estate crash. Yeah...there is wide agreement on what drove all that hyper-leveraging; why are we even listening to AG?  I suspect that AG is advocating liquidity to keep the bubble game going on Wall St.--what does he care about defaults? He certainly did not care during his tenure, when the MBS crisis/mort defaults were predicted by several prominent economists (Shiller, Roubini, et al). In light of what is happening, I understand why "fiat money" looks like such a terrible idea, when it's misused to pump the markets. 
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The complete ignorance of this guy baffles me, well not really. The more money they print out of thin air the more they default on the people. People who have money in treasurery bonds and people who have money saved are being defaulted on everyday through inflation.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Some pundits are using "HI Tax" for "hidden inflation tax".
Edited by biggfredd 09/05/2011 7:02 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Sure we can always print more money, until the world decides to take away the keys to the printing Ferrari (WRC), and then what? If that were to happen, Hawk, what would happen would be that US dollars would no longer be in as much demand as they are now. Anything that declines in demand rate also declines in price and value. What we would see here is about a 30-35% drop in the purchasing power of the US dollar, which is to say that everything would go up in price by that amount. The wages of workers would probably follow but there would be some delay and some hardship created by that delay. The real victims of this would be the folks barely making it and living on a fixed income that does not increase along with prices. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"What we would see here is about a 30-35% drop"
Well Ed, would the current dollar/sterling exchange rate point that the fact that we are rapidly approaching that figure. I can't even buy anything from the UK or Australia right now, minus some rare cases where Americans don't bid on something assuming that someone from the UK is gonna get a much better deal, and there for be able to push the bid higher, cheaper shipping, etc....
Check out the premiums on gold British half sovs or silver or gold Britannia's for example, and tell me they are a smart buy over here from the UK. It is comical as you can get like two 1 10th Eagles, for what you may pay for a Half sov or a 1 10th gold Britannia over there....
And here is a good question for you Ed, as I always appreciate your analyzing of things to accuracy IMO....
When the UK went through their troubles of the early 70's, which lead to the WRC title being lost by them and adapted by us, what did they do from then to now to in fact put themselves in a much better economic situation today then the US is in?
Edited by Silverhawk74 09/05/2011 8:17 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Who wrote this?
This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am gonna guess Nixon....
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Rest in Peace
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Quote: What we would see here is about a 30-35% drop in the purchasing power of the US dollar, which is to say that everything would go up in price by that amount. Not exactly. If purchasing power drops 33% ($3 buys what $2 used to) prices go up 50%.
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Rest in Peace
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Quote: Who wrote this?
$pan
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: When the UK went through their troubles of the early 70's, which lead to the WRC title being lost by them and adapted by us, what did they do from then to now to in fact put themselves in a much better economic situation today then the US is in? I'm not completely familiar with the condition of the British economy, so cannot converse intelligently on that subject. I suppose that my 1st question would be, "Is the British economy better off than the US?". It might be. But then again, it might not be. When my wife and I toured Britain in 2001, I thought that the prices there were absolutely outrageous. I very much understand why British citizens, by and large, do not save for their retirement outside of their government plan. They simply have to spend every cent they earn just to live. The thought of "discretionary funds" would be pocket change and not real money. We also know that the British government has implemented an austerity program that is aimed at improving their economy. Whether or not it will succeed in doing so is not known at the present time. I am hopeful, though, that it will if it reduces government spending and borrowing. That would be a major step in the right direction and one that we all hope will catch on with other governments around the world that spend more than they have. Quote: If purchasing power drops 33% ($3 buys what $2 used to) prices go up 50%. To quote a phrase, "not exactly". If $1 worth of stuff sees a 35% increase, it goes to $1.35 not $1.50, as in your example. Number quibbling aside, the fact is that the loss of WRC status would be very expensive for most US citizens, many of whom are blissfully unaware that there even IS a WRC, let alone that the US dollar is it.
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