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Austrian Silver Philharmonic. Why No Love?

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 Posted 08/16/2012  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list
not a big fan of them because of their size (36 or 37mm diameter, smaller than even the maples), smooth edge, and too simplistic of an unchanging design)
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 Posted 08/16/2012  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list
I had forgotten about the smaller sizing, Po. I could see where that would be an issue for some, although I actually like the smooth edges, I must admit. But I keep all my coins and rounds in Airtite containers so, other than adjusting for ring size, they're all the same dimensions. Easier for stacking purposes :)
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 Posted 08/16/2012  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list

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I could care less about that personally...


So you do care about it? If you couldn't care less then you would care nil. Given that you "could care less" the only thing I know is you care more than nil.
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 Posted 08/16/2012  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
Wow you twisted a knot in my simple mind there UK Dave, lol....

That logic reminded me of the Princess bride where the Sicilian was trying to decide which cup had the poison in it, too funny rof....

They both did of course, but the Dread Pirate Roberts had been building up his immunity to the poison for years, lol....


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 Posted 08/17/2012  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The U.S. and Canadian markets know ASE's and Maples better, and are more familiar with them.

I would think the primary market for Philharmonic bullion coins would be Austrian and European collectors.

Same thing as U.S. coin collectors mainly collecting U.S.coins.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add starbuxinvestor to your friends list
But Pandas and Koalas get lots of love.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinwatch to your friends list
Pandas and Koalas and kookaburras also change every year and are very collectible above and beyond their bullion value.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list

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So you do care about it? If you couldn't care less then you would care nil. Given that you "could care less" the only thing I know is you care more than nil.


Just for you, Dave:

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 Posted 08/17/2012  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add starbuxinvestor to your friends list
I agree. Changing designs drive interest and add a collectability facet that adds to demand. Maple Leafs probably have the best of both world by producing the classic design in addition to collectible designs annually.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list
Lol, Barry...

My fave is... to, too, and two...


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 Posted 08/17/2012  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukemarshall to your friends list
I agree with you starbuxcollector, a change of design does indeed drive collectability. Point in case mexican onzas... .925 balance, to thick. 999 then to the current design, the last being the most collectible IMO
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 Posted 08/22/2012  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add odentheviking to your friends list
I'll tell you why I will never own one......... When Gold was about $350 an Oz. I found myself in Germany in front of a Bank that had both the Gold and Silver rounds on display in the window. I went in with cash/Euros and asked to buy one of each. The teller called a Manager over and I was told "No"! No explanation just "No"! I asked why I could not buy the rounds but over and over again she simply said "No". She then went into the back and an older bald gentleman came out. I once again explained that I simply wished to buy one Gold and one Silver oz. round. The only thing he would say is "Nine"!
It was at about this time that a Policeman showed up and asked me to leave the bank.
I did not have this problem in Canada !
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 Posted 08/22/2012  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list
Sounds as if they were saying "look but don't touch... and certainly don't have!".

The way things in Europe have gone for the past couple of years, it would not surprise me to find that a lot of them have since purchased both gold and silver as their savings.
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 Posted 08/22/2012  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
Availability is one issue, but with the internet and the massive networking that we have today, sources never go dry for very long. Demand gets filled very quickly, along with a higher price. Last week I had to "settle" for a few Philharmonics. They are not my first choice but it was either that or pay $1 more for ASEs. I like ASE, but I hate generic buffalo rounds even less than Philharmonics.

The reason I don't *quite* like Philharmonics is the same reason I like Libertads - the old Phils don't have the denomination (E1,50) on them, which I think is quite silly, to be honest. The new Phils do. For me it comes down to preference. First bars, then Libertads, then Maples, then ASEs, then anything else affordable AND recognisable. Australia would be at the top for me but their desirability, low availability (here), and high prices make me look for alternatives.
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 Posted 08/23/2012  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list
Yeah, I can agree on that, Libertad. Maybe it is the musical theme of the Philharmonics that doesn't do anything for me. I DO like ASEs, silver Maples, and Mexican silver Onzas. All are great looking 1-oz silver coins.
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