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United States
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Platinrubel welcome to the sight and some seriously STRONG info thanks!!
I like these bars, cool shape and look, and no doubt even in German when you see.999 you are good baring a fake piece, lol. Easy now Silverdollar, back up a bit this bad boy is real, jk buddy, lol....
CURIOUS, what is the German historical connection to the smelter on the back and the date 1845?
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10/03/2012 1:58 pm
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I gotta say I am impressed with this company and like these pieces, check out the gold, including a dividable 50 gram gold bar.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-gram-Gol...em5aea38b54fOr like the silber bar..... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-OZ-Gold-b...em257607d6beI think ones biggest issue on re-sale on these, is the TRUST factor. After seeing their sight, and realizing I don't here about many con artists making fake pmz coming out of Germany, probably a pretty safe investment, but convincing an American buyer of that is a whole different ball of wax.... The seller has many strong feed-backs with no negs and with ebay BUYER PROTECTION I worry about zero on ebay purchases anymore, even with foreign purchases. May take a bit, but you can always get your money back even from bay if you did get a fake bar. Prove to bay its fake, you will get your money back. Via a written disclaimer from a reputable jewelry or coin dealer that the item in question is fake.... Edited by Silverhawk74
10/03/2012 2:07 pm
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Austria
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1845 is the year when the refining-company "heimerle & meule" was founded. on their website, on the left side you will find the logo of them. its the same as on the bar. http://www.heimerle-meule.com/background: heimerle-meule and ESG Edelmetall-Service GmbH & Co. KG are founders of http://www.barren.de.this is a joint-venture for selling bars and coins etc |
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Actually, it's not made of silver. As clearly marked on the bar, it was the personal property of this guy... Interesting. Does this mean that all of the "silver" we've bought actually belongs to Long John Silver, the pirate?  |
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Any silber is good silber! That's what I always say. It's over spot, but if its really 200 years old its cool :)
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Ok so through all that....this bar IS? in fact 1oz .999% pure silver? At least after this thread and checking out the websites, that's the way I see it. Though like silverhawk74 said, just never considered buying anything German because of the trust factor.
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10/06/2012 5:40 pm
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I don't think this bar's German origin is the problem. I'm sure the Germans are more than capable of minting excellent quality .999 Ag bullion products. The only "trust" factor I see is that these bars are relatively unknown here in the North American market. If I were currently more in "collecting" mode, I might consider picking on up one of these bars to educate myself. However, I'm "stacking" now and buying the tried and true ASE's and CSM's is all I care about. |
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this bar is true and best silver of course ;-)
even german quality.
of course this bar is not 200 years old Broseph!
the was no www at this time ;-)
www.barren.de
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@ platinrubel Thanks! You being close should pick some up. Seems like that bar sold for a fairly high price. $63 plus $10 for shipping. Sheesh. I actually bid on this but once the bar and shipping topped $45 I was out.
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Austria
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yes, but this bar is not for investment...
theese bars are mainly cast for collectors.
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Apparently. Its too bad, would love to see and hold one for giggles ya know.  Edited by samsnate
10/08/2012 1:54 pm
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I stay away from anything called german silver. Although this does look like pure AG. people use those plays on words purposfully so that they can get away with trickery
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Austria
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you must not be afraid of this "german silver". silber is silver and has nothing to do with "german silver" or "neu silber"
but you must know what is a bar from a refining company.
but I think this are the basics for a collector or investor.
the inscription on spanish bars is plata, on french bars "argent" - so whats the problem? only the language?
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so whats the problem? only the language? Probably not the language but the fact that there are many "German silver" articles for sale these days that are not silver at all. |
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Austria
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german silver is of course no silver - its like "nordic cold" only a name but its important to know the european hallmarks and refining companies. of course we in europe have also the same problems with silver or gold bars from the united states. and you always have to beware of the mostly chinese fakes. and of course its better - not to use ebay to buy such worthy products. |
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