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1921-D Mercury Dimes - Toning Vs. Environmental Damage

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 Posted 01/18/2016  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
I agree with your assessment. The first is nicer with circulation cameo, BUT it also has awfully dark tone but I don't see any corrosion.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
I would hold off and find a different example. That dark toning is not appealing to many people.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add one_fine_dime to your friends list
Thanks for the replies. I was thinking the same about many folks maybe not preferring this type of toning...but others like myself do. If I can pick this up for a good price (less than current G6 market), I may do so. But now that I've tipped off my fellow CCF members, who knows.

Five days until bidding ends and there are already 7 bids! Not sure if that's a good indication of people's aversion to dark toning.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
The first one is far better, too much damage on the second one.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
one_fine_dime - I'd look for something without the very dark toning. If you are only after one of these it's usually wise to buy one you will be happy with 10 years from now.

We all buy coins we wish we had not purchased, and in almost every case it's because we thought it was a 'good buy'. On the other hand, when we look at really beautiful coins in our collections we don't even remember what price we paid. Only that we love that coin.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add one_fine_dime to your friends list
Thanks moxking. I'm definitely thinking I'll be buying more than one 1921-D Mercury dime. I appreciate your suggestion not to jump into a given coin purchase simply based on a perception of being a good buy, but can you tell me, is the detraction to dark toning just your personal preference or is there something more to your suggestion to avoid such a purchase? So many coins on ebay seem to exhibit signs of cleaning, where all the rich toning resulting from years of daily commerce have been stripped off, leaving scratched up surfaces with less character (in my opinion). The circulation cameo that you mentioned is a part of this coin exhibiting a kind of genuine character.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
There is absolutely nothing wrong with your first choice, even with the dark circulation cameo. However, regardless of how most collectors view eye appeal, you will almost always find it true that when something JUMPS out at you from a coin, it is usually less desirable.

In other words, if the FIRST thing that you see is the ding in the rim of a coin (yours doesn't have one, I'm just using this as an example), even though everything else is great, that ding will also be the first thing everyone else sees, too.

In this case, toning is an "up in the air" subject because most collectors, after having collected for a while, tend to lean toward toning over bright coins.

Early buyers want BRIGHT coins, and there is nothing wrong with that if it is natural luster. I prefer BRIGHT coins in certain series - like classic silver commemoratives. But there are plenty of folks who will happily pay extra for nice toning and some that go absolutely bonkers for great toning.

In this case, there is nothing wrong with the toning displayed because it is not detractive to MOST collectors. Some won't touch it, but I'd guess they are fewer.

The real question is where you are for price and grade. If this is pushing your limit for price, then it is a good buy and you will enjoy owning it.

If you could go a bit more for a bit better that will almost always be the wisest decision, even if it cuts down on the number of coins you buy.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Good points mox.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add one_fine_dime to your friends list
Thanks for your thoughts moxking, I greatly appreciate hearing such insight on this topic! I do realize that one of the most oft repeated advice for collectors is to buy the best grade one can afford...but of course this does limit budget for other purchases.

I've heard that before about the younger collectors eyeing those bright and shiny things whereas older ones appreciate the "seasoned" look of original skins. I definitely fall in the latter troop, and find it disheartening that the dipping trend seems so prevalent. But the dominant collector preference will drive the market in the end. If primo examples of original toned coins become harder to come by, and collector demand for those increases due to some collector preferences, then I would imagine coins like this could be a solid long-term investment.

As the true key to this series is way beyond my single coin (non gold) budget (right now), I like looking for variety on this classic "semi" key.

Wouldn't there be the same potential for value growth at the G6 level as at higher grades? Meaning, I could buy several good eye appeal G6 level coins for the same $$ as a single XF or AU. Wouldn't this strategy be a kind of diversification - focusing on a single key coin but investing in a variety of specimens at various grades.

Also, it seems uncertified G to VG level coins can be purchased at relative low risk and then submitted for grading to solidify investment value, one just needs to be a confident grader. I realize the risk increases substantially when buying higher grade uncertified coins.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
With respect, I would wait until you find one you really like and pay up a bit. Neither of these will really pleasse you over the long haul, I would bet.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hnry to your friends list
Hi one-fine-dime.....I agree with coinfrog - don't buy something just to fill a hole or save a nickle...wait a little, spend a little...trade a little...

neither of these samples appeals to me at all...they are pretty rugged actually...
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 Posted 01/18/2016  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
When you show your set to another collector, you don't want to start out apologizing for your best coin.

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 Posted 01/18/2016  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add one_fine_dime to your friends list
Yep, I agree, this dark toned coin is a bit rough...good advice to skip it altogether.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
Now, after all that, you have to promise to show us what you finally find. We want to see a juicy one!
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You got it!
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