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 Posted 12/30/2017  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
If people didn't collect modern day regular issues (back in the day) we would not have any classics to collect.
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 Posted 12/30/2017  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
Remember, the "common circulating Wheaties" you collected are now rare, never seen oddities.

Besides, 99.9% of the ZLincolns have enough scratches that in 25 or 50 years all that will be left is a green shell and a pile of Zinc dust.
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 Posted 12/30/2017  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nutmeg to your friends list
I'm putting away all the 2017-P cents I get in change. Most of them are still nice.
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 Posted 12/30/2017  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
One of the best things about this forum is our acceptance of divergent collecting philosophies.

Regardless of each collectors goals, or lack of goals, there is a noted sociological connection between collectors and those with a creative talent.

As such it is no surprise when so many of us create what we believe is most satisfying.
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 Posted 12/30/2017  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list

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Am I being crotchety in my thinking that it's pointless to think that saving any modern-day regular issue is a waste of time? Or am I missing something here and should temper my thinking?


Yes, you are being crotchety:

1. They fill up the folders, and that, if nothing else, is entertaining and educational.
2. Diligently, and in bulk, CRH can get the vast majority of modern coins, including silver, at face value. That makes a difference for new collectors with a limited budget.
3. Unlike in 1972, variety hunting can be profitable.
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 Posted 12/30/2017  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
jpsned....ahem, dude, hey sport! You and I would get along like Brothers!





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Am I being crotchety in my thinking that it's pointless to think that saving any modern-day regular issue is a waste of time? Or am I missing something here


Modern coins, since our Mint has digressed into the netherworld of RCM wannabe similarities, in their wild run up to glow-in-the-dark living President coins that chime when you flip them...(just you wait...)has produced a paltry prospectus of even nominal investment potentials hoping to impress the mindless minions of gullible young collectors. Yes, you know who you are, Millenials...Happy New Year!




Oriole...you tried selling any of dem errors? Let me know how you do it, I can't seem to turn a one.
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12/30/2017 6:57 pm
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 Posted 12/30/2017  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list

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Oriole...you tried selling any of dem errors? Let me know how you do it, I can't seem to turn a one.


Actually, I am not a collector of errors or varieties, but one of our LCS in my city is a father and son team that has developed this as quite a profitable part of their business.

There is a middle ground between buying every mint product and slagging modern coins. I am saying that collecting modern coins can be enjoyable and educational-I see dozens of our fellow CCF members who enjoy it and know their stuff.

Of course the average coin issued in the billions will never be worth face value, nor will most modern mint products ever be resold for their selling price.

I doubt that collecting modern coins will be particularly profitable, but that statement could apply to almost any kind of coin collecting. I collect a lot of different things, and probably I would not get my money back if I sold them, but that is OK.
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 Posted 12/30/2017  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
Hey guys, thanks for the viewpoints! They're all valid and thoughtful. (And just to clarify, when I mentioned saving modern-day issues being a waste of time, I meant saving them in bulk in the hopes that they'd be worth extra money some day. Filling up holes in a folder is always a good thing; heck, I'm still trying to fill in the Lincoln Denver issues from the last decade!)
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 Posted 12/31/2017  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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If people didn't collect modern day regular issues (back in the day) we would not have any classics to collect.
Agreed.

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Besides, 99.9% of the ZLincolns have enough scratches that in 25 or 50 years all that will be left is a green shell and a pile of Zinc dust.
Sad, but true.
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 Posted 12/31/2017  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Am I being crotchety in my thinking that it's pointless to think that saving any modern-day regular issue is a waste of time?


Yes I would agree that you are.

Every coin was a modern at one time. A coin is also a coin, being older doesn't make something more of a coin, everyone has different tastes and there is nothing wrong with liking moderns.

Yes mintages are in the billions or 100s of millions but how many of those do you think are actually nice? The majority don't come that nice from the mint in the first place as they are pumping them out so fast, and the overwhelming majority get used as no one saves them. There are a lot of examples of moderns where finding a high grade one would be harder to find than finding a "key date" classic coin in a reasonable grade
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 Posted 12/31/2017  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add n9jig to your friends list
Collecting new coins is fairly simple, you can just buy them from the mint or get them at the bank. I like to collect out of circulation and have started to try to collect a roll's worth of each circulating date/mintmark coin I can. While I already have pretty much done so for most pennies )both US and Canada) I have only jut started on nickels. Dimes and quarters and perhaps dollars are down the road...
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 Posted 01/01/2018  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
I swing wildly from excited back to crotchety. Like you, I started in the early 70s working a cash register job where you could still pull silver quarters, Mercury dimes, Buffalo nickles, IHCs for face value. Now I get excited (briefly) when I find a 1965 quarter still kicking around. I ponder the history, it sits on my desk for a week or two, then the crotchety kicks back in and I think, what are my kids going to do with all this junk? and back into circulation it goes. I got excited when a friend agreed to score a roll of Effigy Mounds quarters for me at the launch in Iowa, then I went through the roll and there wasn't anything better than MS62 in the bunch. What's the point of tying up this $10 for a generation? Back to crotchety. But I think you just have to separate "collecting" from "investment" and focus on what you enjoy. If you focus on "investment", you'll always end up crotchety.
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 Posted 01/03/2018  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scurry64 to your friends list
Just because it's not expensive, doesn't mean it's not worth keeping. Collect what you like.
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 Posted 01/03/2018  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Just because it's not expensive, doesn't mean it's not worth keeping. Collect what you like.
Short and to the point.
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 Posted 01/03/2018  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list
IMO, the line between collecting and hoarding is crossed when it's no longer enjoyable for its own sake. I was hoarding 95% copper pennies, and eventually got so sick of looking at the plastic jug in the corner of my office that I dumped them all at a coinstar for a gift card. My inheritors (be them my kids, grandkids etc) will appreciate a focused, pedigreed collection. They probably wouldn't appreciate getting a jug full of mostly zinc rotten cents that used to be BU.
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