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Tell me that pattern on the upper right is anything but a chemical. They look like they were toned on my bbq grill. Pretty but I will never understand how we accpet this as slab worthy. I remember this being referred to as circus toning. I see at least another in the sale that looks to have been gassed thru the slab. I love toning, just the kind that takes about 100 years to do.  Edited by cointagous
04/05/2025 01:51 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Saw them and a few others. Natural toning? I think not.
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Quote:Hokie, do you think that if you or I submitted an ASE like this to PCGS that it would straight-grade? I have the feeling that it wouldn't. This same thought had crossed my mind, Hondo...  Member of SPMC, FCCB, ANA and ANS. My U.S. Classic Commemorative Complete Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/278741/My U.S. Fractional Note Set: https://notes.www.collectors-societ...eSetID=34188 |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
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Sold for $3712 and $2309 respectively.
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Sold for $3712 and $2309 respectively. What?  That's crazy........  |
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Quote:Maybe a practice piece: 266974713524 Could be the person doing this was trying to get the heat 'just right' or how long to leave it on the BBQ. I wonder if he used gas, charcoal, or a pellet fed grill.  |
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Shameful and disgusting that both PCGS would slab these and that GC would auction them. Causes me to loose respect for both agencies.  |
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Interesting. |
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Apparently those WERE sizzle marks.
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Well, I'm happy to see from all the comments that I wasn't alone in thinking this was a bit outrageous. As others mentioned, I do love natural toning, and I'm fully aware the distinction between "natural" and "artificial" toning can be extremely blurry at times. Those with a bit of knowledge can in a short time create toning on a coin that looks quite natural. Also, if a coin is stored in a harsh environment, for example if you lived near an oil refinery where the coin is exposed to a lot of sulfuric compounds in the air, it can accelerate the toning process dramatically. Where I draw the line for myself is where something is blatantly artificially produced and would be virtually impossible to have occurred without some sort of manual manipulation, such as the two ASE's in my original post. The sad thing is some folks are willing to pay enough for this stuff that it will only encourage this to happen more often. Member of SPMC, FCCB, ANA and ANS. My U.S. Classic Commemorative Complete Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/278741/My U.S. Fractional Note Set: https://notes.www.collectors-societ...eSetID=34188 |
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PCGS might, and I mean MIGHT, convince me it's not artificial. But two with identical toning? Please. Someone with deep pockets or favoritism is at work with those ones. Add to this that one is an MS68. How do you determine that grade through heavy toning?
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