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Bedrock of the Community
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Stop lurking and join the party!  This is how we all learn.....discussion is good.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'll toss in a little more....I found all amongst circulated coins. These are pulls from my friends 25+ year old coin hoard. To digress, it's TRULY an unsearched stash (till now). At the end of each day he'd toss his pocket change into giant, glass bottles. It's been a blast searching, I even found a MS-62/63 1999 WAM. Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm having an issue with the last one. The tie, coat, and cheek show either reflections of light or is that wear? But then I see it is slabbed and ask myself why is everyone grading it so well? The obverse has a strange rim too. So, what (if anything) do we have here? I really am not very knowledgeable but I see something...broad strike? Collar issue? Or do I just see a trip to the eye doctor in my future?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ok Thad, let try this the first three are ungradeable due to environmental damage and the fourth is already graded.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1418 Posts |
The last one looks weird. Is it a weak strike?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7123 Posts |
The 80's were notorious for weak strike coins , mostly caused by worn dies.this partcular date and mint,
5,569,238,906coins with just over 3 million proofs its not suprising we see circulation strike coins like this.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1418 Posts |
Thanks. It almost looks fake.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19979 Posts |
OK, I'll let loose my opinions now that a bunch of people have guessed. Yes, the last coin is a PCGS from ha.com. COIN A - Environmental damage, a few light corrosion spots. Any TPG would reject this coin. The large black spot on the portrait is from the mint, a large carbon spot from mint processing. I would grade it as MS-60, there's just too many distractions and it makes for a very unappealing coin. COIN B - What a shame! It was a nice planceht and the coin is virtually hit-free. Once again, common with this issue, black mint carbon spots all over it. There's no corrosion, those are all stains that I contend come from mint processing. The spotting is very distracting once again, so I'd grade this one MS-62. COIN C - Hard to tell from the pictures, but this is an AU coin. When you look at it closely, you can see rub on the obverse high points. There is also just a hair of rub on the reverse cornice. Additionally, it's fairly obvious the coin has been handled a lot with multiple fingerprints showing on the obverse. There are a couple spots of light corrosion, so it would be ungradable with a TPG. I would grade this as AU-50. COIN D - PCGS MS-66. I picked this coin because the photo shows what appears to be rubs on the obverse portrait, the hair, cheek and jaw. Those are obviously not wear rubs, but strike issues. The obverse has numerous distractions, but not enough to drop it to 65. I'm sure everyone is wondering how this coin graded so high....one simple answer....LUSTER. Also, it's virtually hit-free, the reverse is almost perfect. Combine that with blazing luster and a TPG grader will be impressed. It also goes to show that a coin doesn't have to be "flawless" to still get a 66 TPG grade. Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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On COIN C, I'v circled the design high points. The top of the forehead is the first place to look on a Memorial cent. It's just like the cheek/jaw on a Wheat cent for showing wear. The mint lowered the shoulder relief, but the very bottom of the shoulder and bust are design high points still. Ever notice how the STATES OF on many Memorials are weak, it's due to the high relief of that obverse area. After that I examine the hair, cheek and lapel for rubs to determine if a Memorial is AU. For the reverse of a Memorial I've highlighted the design high points. Always inspect these for wear.   Edited by BadThad
09/29/2010 11:28 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Great information, Thad..  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7123 Posts |
So on coin 2 the spot on cent on the reverse is not environmental corrosion?
Coin 4 has two flaws which I believe render it gradeable to 64 but not beyond, and both are die issues which are present on alot of Lincoln cents minted in the 80's.
while it is a BU coin with mint state luster and color it is lacking so much design detail it really only belongs in a 2X2 or a whitman folder. JMO
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19979 Posts |
I see no corrosion on coin 2, just stains and carbon spots.
Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7123 Posts |
A big halo'ed spot on the E in Cent on the reverse.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1659 Posts |
Very informative. Great thread! Thanks Thad!
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Valued Member
United States
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I have to watch this forum ,I am old enough to know that I don't know everything but right now I wonder if I know anything.
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