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Possible Error Note, Two Different Serials

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 Posted 04/27/2012  2:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Baanos to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello, I just stumbled upon this banknote this morning.

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I was so excited that I screamed, but then upon closer inspection, there is what seems to be a hard crease in the middle, and it got me thinking, could two notes have been cut in half and then stuck back together somehow ? I cannot see any trace of adhesive tape. If it is a fake, the person who did this was meticulous because to the naked eye everything is consistent. I will have to get a hold of a magnifying glass and inspect that crease and report back here with the results. In the meantime, what if this is genuine, what kind of premium could it bring ?
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 Posted 04/27/2012  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While you are looking, check the pattern of the print that looks almost like cloth. It appears that it changes from left to right to a completely different pattern which at the center where the crease is the pattern should line up perfectly and uninterrupted and not be off a little.
I don't know but it looks like a great mismatch number to me?
Those two numbers sure are a distance from each other. You would think that the sequence would be closer?
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04/27/2012 5:11 pm
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 Posted 04/27/2012  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a good one, a really good one! Nice find!
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What a nice find. You just hit the jackpot, 4 mismatched didgits.
The grade is not too bad but if you don't like the grade I'll take it from you.




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04/27/2012 8:13 pm
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 Posted 04/28/2012  05:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commoncents13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's an incredible mismatched number difference, 5 number's!
---Your right to want to investigate that fold and would be nice if we had a better and closer picture to magnify so we could all see.
---From your picture it looks real but, if it's a fake that is someone that has skills and allot of time that did it.
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 Posted 04/28/2012  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think if it were a fake it would be on ebay and not in circulation. Get it graded and certified I say.
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 Posted 04/28/2012  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Getting it slabbed really doesn't add value to error notes. But that is up to you.
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04/28/2012 10:33 am
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Yes,get it certified to determine if it's a fake or not.
I don't see how THESE mismatched numbers can be.
(Maybe someone was having fun with the printing/numbering machine at the mint?)
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IMO! I agree getting it certified would eliminate the doubts of it being a fake.
---I believe a seller could us that to his advantage if put for sale and could demand a greater price, surely the buyer would give less if not.
---I would say not really, if it were just one or two numbers or even three maybe, but this is 5 off.
---Can't be to many!
--Baanos--Could you give us a closer centre shot with both numbers in view?

Thanks / Merci pour ton temps.
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The serial numbers are imprinted with special inks. Any modification, or overprinting can be identifyed with a camera that has infrared. My Sony Cybershot has "night vision" and I use it on notes with questionable ink smears. The non-currency ink shows up completely differently than the ink used for the serial numbers.

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 Posted 04/30/2012  06:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commoncents13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK!--ikandiggit-- But were talking about this one, I don't get your post. Technology is great but a close-up picture would do the trick, if spliced it would show in the finer details of the note.
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 Posted 04/30/2012  07:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ikandiggit, not sure what you are getting at with your post.

Baanos..If you think it could have been spliced together, then a good close up of that area will help us out here make a decision that as to what is really going on with your bill.
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 Posted 04/30/2012  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I received an email from someone asking me about my mismatched serial numbers and if it was possible for someone to erase the number and print on new numbers. Mistakenly, I thought it was related to this thread.

Sorry for the confusion.
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 Posted 04/30/2012  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add folcan99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sinced seeing that it is only a picture of a 10 dollar bill and, now a days anything can be altered, I'm going to say that this is looking to me like an altered bill. Until I see a certified paper showing it's real, then I'm going to stick to my opinion, Sorry guys numbers seem too far off.
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I didn't get a chance to buy a magnifying glass, but I can certainly take some pictures close-up, as close as my camera allows it. Here they are:

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By the way on the first picture you can sort of see that it's torn at the bottom. Please note that I bent the note on that picture as you can probably see. I cannot see that tear if the note isn't bent and in its sleeve. Also if you'd like, I can email you better quality pictures, just send me an email and I will.

ikandiggit, I'm using a sony cybershot too, but it's a cheap one, DSC-W530, and I don't think it has the night vision feature on it.
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 Posted 04/30/2012  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Baanos

I used my program called gwyddion to analyse the (so called) folded part of you bill...As you can see where the arrows are pointing, it is indicative of a folded bill.

To me, it is real (But remember, I am no expert)


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