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James I Shilling

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ENGLAND
James I (1603-1625)
AR Shilling
5.92g

Obv: IACOBVS D G MAG BRI FRA ET HI REX, Bust right
Rev: QVAE DEVS CONIVNXIT NEMO SEPARET (Matthew 19-6), Shield of arms
mm: Lis, 1623-24
Third coinage 6th bust, north 2124
gF, Flan flaws
Ex: Davissons, Auct. 27 June 2008 #143
Spink 2668
Steven W. Damron, Numis.

Got this coin at the 2013 FUN Show (Florida United Numismatists)
This coin is sort of out of my area of expertise as I collect milled English coins (late 17th century-18th century). I know it has "flan flaws" but is it still a nice example?
Any info about this coin would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Very nice coin, how much did you pay if you don't mind me asking?
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Very nice Shilling!

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Great coin, wish I had kept all the English hammered pieces I had back in the 1970's.
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Thank you. I paid $140
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You've done well for $140
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That's good to hear! Wasn't sure.
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Isn't that a pretty thing! There's some subtle measure of beauty that was lost when they went from the hammer to the press.
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Yes it is and I agree! I don't know much about the hammered coins as I mainly collect late 17th/18th century milled coins but I am starting to get into hammered. This is the second hammered coin I've purchased; the first being an Edward I Bristol Mint penny. What does the "Lis" mean in regards to the mint mark on this particular coin and what are some good reference guides (websites/books) for hammered coinage?
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The "lis" is a fleur-de-lys. Yours appears just before IACOBUS. Indicates the Tower Mint, 1604-5 and 1623-4 on these coins.
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01/13/2013 8:51 pm
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Oh wow, that's pretty cool! Thanks!
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Nice coin
Spink 2013 values this at £90 in F & £350 in VF
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Oh wow! Thanks for the info. So what would you say the grade is for this coin. Do you agree with the gF grade (which I think is good fine?) or would you say it's something else?
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In the gF-gVF range.

I would say aVF but I'm not sure how much to subtract for clipping etc.
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