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Does anyone know what this coin might be? Thanks!

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 Posted 06/18/2014  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's an English hammered groat, or fourpence. The king's name is Edward; Edward IV, I believe.

I'm a bit worried about the colour. It looks very coppery in the photo; I hope that's just a trick of the lighting?
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Hello, yes, it is the lighting . It is a medium silver color in person. There is very light rainbow toning that is impossible to see except when looking at the coin under a direct bright light. Also forgot to add 25.5 mm and 3.1g, very thin.
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I agree with Edward IV groat. I'm thinking the mintmark is pellet-in-annulet, though on the obverse it looks like just an annulet, and the reverse just a pellet.
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 Posted 06/19/2014  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From a reference book :

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Edward IV (1461-1483)
Groat
EDWARD DI GRA REX ANGL Z FRANC
Edward dei gratia rex angliae et franciae
POSVI DEVM ADIVTOREM MEVM
I shall make God my helper
CIVITAS LONDON
city of London

I did not find any explanation on the mint mark

Coin can be found in : http://www.medievalcoinage.com/pdfb...Thorburn.pdf
Coin no 58 on plate VI, explanation on page 34

or : http://www.medievalcoinage.com/pdfb...ey_Leake.pdf
coin no 26 E4 on plate III
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 Posted 06/20/2014  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rmassey210 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool! Can you let me know where the mintmark(s) are on the coin? I don't know much about identifying / looking at older coins such as this.
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There's an obverse and reverse mark at the beginning of the legend, before EDWARD and POSUI respectively.
A list of the mintmarks of Edward IV's coinage is here:
http://www.psdetecting.com/Mintmark...tml#EdwardIV
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Awesome, thanks everyone for helping me out on this.
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thanks Phil for the mintmark link.
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