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1868 1 Dollar Gold - Real Or Fake ?

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mds308 Pillar of the Community United States 1662 Posts	Posted 01/27/2022 12:03 pm I've had this in my collection for many years. I was looking it over and thought it just doesn't look right. I bought it in a small bag of scrap gold, so I know I have nothing in it. Is it counterfeit? It weighs 1.64 grams which is close but the diameter is 15.18mm when it should be 14.3mm. I hope my pictures are clean enough. Thanks for your help and opinions. Report this Post to the Staff

jacrispies Pillar of the Community United States 1538 Posts	Posted 01/27/2022 12:13 pm Could be an ex-jewelry piece, thus increasing the diameter. Nothing stands out as fake to me, it just has a harsh cleaning. I say genuine. Report this Post to the Staff
Jaobler Pillar of the Community United States 5854 Posts	Posted 01/27/2022 12:36 pm There doesn't seem to be any trace of LIBERTY on the headband and overall appearance is crude. This is a commonly-counterfeited date and I vote fake. Hopefully it's actually gold. Even if genuine the cleaning and rough surfaces would mean the coin is valued basically for the gold content. Report this Post to the Staff
jacrispies Pillar of the Community United States 1538 Posts	Posted 01/27/2022 1:15 pm There's that too, it could be counterfeit and gold. That is possibly why it was in a scrap pile. An XRF test can verify the gold content. Report this Post to the Staff
iontyre Valued Member United States 267 Posts	Posted 01/27/2022 1:24 pm Wait a minute, Red Book and other sources say the diameter of the type II and type III gold dollars was 15mm, not 14.3... Report this Post to the Staff
DoctorBurnzy Pillar of the Community United States 946 Posts	Posted 01/27/2022 2:39 pm Here's how you spot the fake 1868 gold dollar. The weak ghost "I" in America is the big giveaway. The I in your coinappears a little weak and the lack of appearance of LIBERTY leads me to believe it's fake. Edited by DoctorBurnzy 01/27/2022 2:50 pm Report this Post to the Staff
mds308 Pillar of the Community United States 1662 Posts	Posted 01/27/2022 3:21 pm Quote: Wait a minute, Red Book and other sources say the diameter of the type II and type III gold dollars was 15mm, not 14.3. I got the 14.3 from PCGS site. Quote: There doesn't seem to be any trace of LIBERTY on the headband and overall appearance is crude. This is a commonly-counterfeited date and I vote fake Liberty is barely visible but you have to hold the coin at certain angles. Yes, she is a bit on the crude side. In hand it looks very good but when viewed with a loupe, that's when the alarms go off. Quote: An XRF test can verify the gold content. This has been on my bucket list. Quote: The weak ghost "I" in America is the big giveaway. She definitely has the weak I in Liberty. I appreciate all the input. Personally, I'm leaning towards knock-off but deep down inside I was hoping for better news. Thanks. Report this Post to the Staff
machine20 Pillar of the Community United States 1151 Posts	Posted 01/28/2022 9:22 pm What are your thoughts on the authenticity of this 1868? - albeit jewelry https://www.ebay.com/itm/294752933324 Report this Post to the Staff
mds308 Pillar of the Community United States 1662 Posts	Posted 01/28/2022 9:45 pm Quote: What are your thoughts on the authenticity of this 1868? - albeit jewelry They do look like a match. Doesn't mean his is real but I like the bid. Thanks for the link machine20. Report this Post to the Staff
DoctorBurnzy Pillar of the Community United States 946 Posts	Posted 01/28/2022 10:05 pm The ghost I is the key marker. I gave mine to a friend's son who is becoming a collector a few years back amongst other known fakes. I've bought more gold dollars at this point to never make the same mistake again....but buyer beware of the 1868. Edited by DoctorBurnzy 01/28/2022 10:06 pm Report this Post to the Staff
mds308 Pillar of the Community United States 1662 Posts	Posted 01/28/2022 11:01 pm Quote: The ghost I is the key marker. I gave mine to a friend's son who is becoming a collector a few years back amongst other known fakes. I've bought more gold dollars at this point to never make the same mistake again....but buyer beware of the 1868. Thanks DoctorBurnzy. Great advise. These gold coins came from two different scrap gold purchases. Not a penny lost. Report this Post to the Staff
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