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1797 Large Cent Authenticity

 
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 Posted 05/22/2022  03:31 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kings2110 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,
I recently acquired this coin in an eBay auction. Upon receiving it, I noticed that the lettering is mostly all concaved on the bottoms. Also, it is larger than my 1842 large cent. I have reached out to a large cent expert, who said it was genuine and an S-138 variety. I'm still on the fence regarding its authenticity and would love to see if anyone could check this coin out and give me their opinion. Thank you!



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.I think the pros will need weight and size to help you.
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 Posted 05/22/2022  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Authenticity aside, your 1797 should be larger than an 1842.
1797-28mm Diameter
1842-27mm Diameter
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@king, first welcome to CCF. Second, can you please post the weight? Thx.
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It looks authentic, and S-138 is correct. The bifurcated letters at the bases are due to outward metal flow when a die strikes a loosely fitting planchet.
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Thank you everyone for your greetings and responses! I feel much better about it now. I'm not in possession of a scale but I will get one soon. The other question I have is, what grade would you give this? I know it's quite corroded but what details grade would you give it? Thank you again!
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 Posted 05/23/2022  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zurie explained the bifurcated letters, the explanation for the slightly larger size is because the early cents (until about 1834) were struck without a close collar. Without a close collar the final size of the coin is determined by the force of the strike and how well the planchet was annealed. This meant that every cent was a slightly different size. They are suppose to be about 28.5 mm but the "open collar" coins can be as much as 30 mm or more. The largest I've seen was one that was double struck that was 32 mm. Once the close collar was introduced the diameter was fixed and they were all the same size.
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