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1984 Lincoln Cent PMD All, Some, Or None?

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 Posted 11/26/2022  03:35 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

What do you think? The claw marks on reverse look like PMD, but I'm not sure about the rest.




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 Posted 11/26/2022  05:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add G58NoReverse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@CoinHi,

That's a cool looking coin no matter how/what happened.
Are the major areas in question both sides raised/incuse looks to me to be raised when my eyes rest for a few?
Regardless I wouldn't spend it!
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 Posted 11/26/2022  09:36 am  Show Profile   Check Dearborn's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow, very odd here.
Need to know if the 'thing' on the obverse is raised or incuse.
The 3 lines on the reverse look incuse and I can see metal welling up at the edges - indicating some sort of damage.
Not sure what is going on the the other obverse thing that covers the date and part of the lower bust[ shr]
The obverse is intriguing though.
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 Posted 11/26/2022  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like someone failed to cut the coin apart with shears
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 Posted 11/26/2022  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Note on all of the affected areas, there is a wave of where the metal was moved post strike. A sure sign of Post Strike Damage.
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 Posted 11/26/2022  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All of the marks are incuse. Here's a close-up of the area east of Abe's nose. There is almost a melted or heated look to the group of features both obverse and reverse.

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 Posted 11/26/2022  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with coop, scrape marks where metal was moved it is a PMD
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 Posted 11/26/2022  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin hi another method of confirming PMD is right by the date. The coin is out of round.
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 Posted 11/26/2022  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have to agree, PMD.
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 Posted 11/26/2022  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the comments, it's a spender.
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 Posted 11/26/2022  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful toner!
Excellent images as always.

Hmmm... Most likely PSD but ....

-The obverse incuse linear area isn't caused by shears since there are no opposing cut marks directly opposite on the reverse. Something else maybe.

-The reverse isn't out of round at all.

-The continuation of bays 9,10, & 11 to the south is odd for a couple of reasons. (Is that an amoeba-shaped metal fold inside the continuation of bay 11?) The texture of the metal in the continuation of these bays looks consistent with the unaffected areas. And they seem to stop exactly at the base of the building/steps.
-Areas below columns 7 & 8 are incuse but, oddly, the texture is consistent with other surface bumps.

I would keep it for informational purposes if nothing else.

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 Posted 11/26/2022  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've stared at this a few times today....
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I've stared at this a few times today....

Ha, me too!

PP55- Thanks, I didn't think it was out of round myself. Here's a couple more pics of the area around the date. It's hard to argue that the metal doesn't look "pushed" but I think it might not be here. Also, how does the metal get "pushed" but not go out of round? Perhaps the split plating is making things look pushed?



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 Posted 11/27/2022  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The more I look at this one the more I believe it is a struck-through (on the reverse anyway) with PSD.

IMHO, the incuse areas at the base of the columns and bays appear original and not PSD. There are no raised areas visible adjacent to or opposite the incuse areas. I'm not sure how something could make those deep furrows without the displaced metal showing up somewhere.

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 Posted 11/28/2022  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see nothing but post-strike damage. The vertical furrows in the Memorial terminate abruptly at its base, which is an indicator that this happened after the strike.
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 Posted 11/28/2022  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for confirming this Mike.
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