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New Member
United States
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Coin is year stated.can see one cent and bus unum on front coin upsidedown? Can someone please tell me what this is? I camt find another anywhere. Also back some punch thru an believe says 1910,  
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Vise job not a die clash. John1 
( I'm no pro, it's just my humble opinion ) Searched 6.5 +/- Million Cents Since 1971
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New Member
United States
26 Posts |
Sorry but I completely disagree with you. No way someone did that with vice an still have details and lettering would be flat etc
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Pillar of the Community

United States
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You can disagree all you want This is a vise job.IMHO
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United States
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@josh, we see this exact sort of mechanical damage more than once a week on this subforum. If you have an alternate explanation for how this might happen at the mint, then please offer it to us. Otherwise, you are going to see a chorus of folks telling you it is just damage, such as from being squeezed between two other cents.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Josh, try it your self, I have and the above statements are true. sorry.
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Bedrock of the Community

United States
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C'mon, Josh.   to the CCF!
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Valued Member
United States
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@Joshgt.... Feel free to take your coin into a coin dealer/shop & get their opinion on the matter.
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United States
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If it were done by a die, all the affected areas would be raised and not incuse. Showing this was transferred off another coin, not done by a die. Also not all the affected areas are mirrored. If it were done with a die, then it would be correct, as the die is mirrored. So a transfer from a coin will leave the exact thing you are seeing on your coin. A squeezed cent between one or two coins. If it were a double strike issue, it would look like this coin:    A closer view would show this up close:            Note all the devices are raised, and the double strike flattened some of the raised devices. Exactly what you would see on a double strike coin. All are not mirrored. Which shows it was done by a die. On your coin, the devices affected are on the tops of the tallest devices, and mirrored, Exactly like what would happen on an altered coin, disfigured by another coin. (Not done with a die) People create these coins to sell them to newbies that fall for these. Just an altered coin like the one below:  Note on the fake one I posted, there is two obverses showing over another normal coin. If it were a die setup, why are two obverse sides showing? On the real deal, all the devices line up with the normal setup with the running die pattern:    Note the slight alignment of the two strikes on this coin? But not that they are equally correct on both sides to each other, raised and not mirrored. This is done by working dies. on a coin that was struck twice. So consider this information. CoopHome: How can I tell is a coin was altered or double struck? What would I expect to find? devices that are raised not incuse. devices that are normal, not mirrored. Also the alignment would be correct on both sides of the coin.
Edited by coop 01/31/2023 11:10 am
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Bedrock of the Community

United States
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Cannot be die clash if the dates are different - the obverse is a 1934, And on the reverse it shows a backwards 1910
This is a well done vise job here.
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New Member
United States
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If was done with vice wouldn't the 19 in 1934 be under the E in one not over it?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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My opinion, it's a vise job--perhaps more than one 'squeeze'.
Joshgt83 -- If you feel you have a legit die clash, consider submitting the coin to a reputable third party grading/authentication service. If you do, please share the findings with us. Thanks.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Coin looks warped and the mirrored design and different dates makes this definitive "garage job" damage, PMD.
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Valued Member
United States
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Agree Chase007..... What a waste of two decent coins.
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Valued Member
United States
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@Joshgt.... Is there a local coin dealer/shop in your area? If there is, ask to speak w/ someone knowledgeable regarding errors/varieties & simply get an opinion. All your questions will be answered.
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