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Nero Tetradrachm And Green Blobs

 
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 Posted 02/03/2023  7:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was attracted to this coin by the strong portrait of Nero at around 28 or 29 years of age. Unfortunately the reverse is marred with the very obvious hard green deposits. Is there any way of removing the verdigris(?) PVC(?), or some of it, without spoiling the coin, or should it be left in the condition that it is in? These coins are said to be around 16.3% silver.

Nero Tetradrachm Alexandria. 66/67 AD.
Obverse: His head right, wearing radiate crown and aegis. Obverse inscription: ΝΕΡΩ ΚΛΑV ΚΑΙΣ ΣΕΒ ΓΕΡ. Reverse: Helmeted bust of Roma right. Reverse inscription: ΑΥΤΟΚΡΑ, LΙΓ (Regnal Year 13). Silver/billon. Diameter: 23 mm. Weight: 12.71 gr.
Reference: RPC I, 5293, Milne 248, Dattari 246.

Similar coin: https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coin/107120
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 Posted 02/03/2023  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Check louisvillekyshop's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add louisvillekyshop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just my opinion but it first looks stable and not active which is good and second it grew from the coin material and removing it and the roots will probably give you a badly pitted coin. Again others might have another opinion...And it looks like someone tried to remove something from the lower right and you see what I mean, a pit and not any more attractive.
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 Posted 02/03/2023  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree: removing the green corrosion will reveal pitting underneath.
I have read that in humid conditions, such coins that are not isolated from the rest of the collection can lead to verdigris corrosion spreading to nearby copper based alloy coins.

Optional to physically remove most of the verdigris, but you need lots of patience to do this reasonably well.

Somewhat of a pity: pictured coin is in better than average condition for which these coins are normally found.

My policy to prevent verdigris affecting other coins
is to put the affected coin in a close fitting non PVC album pocket, and seal that inside a standard / cardboard Mylar flip.
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 Posted 02/04/2023  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would guess the green was there when it was dug up, possibly from another coin or the surrounding soil. But as pointed out, there seems to have been a reaction with the coin itself, causing pitting, which is why whoever cleaned it stopped there.

I doubt this would spread. It's not bronze disease, and in any case, that's caused by chlorides that would have to be physically transferred onto the other coins.
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Thank you for the replies, @louisvillekyshop, @sel_69l and @JohnConduitt. The situation with the encrustation is as I had thought, but it is always better to hear the assessment of those with much more experience.

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it first looks stable and not active which is good

In hand it does indeed appear to be stable, and looks to have been on the coin for quite some time. I did wonder about the pit on the lower right, and I agree that it doesn't do anything for the coin.

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Somewhat of a pity: pictured coin is in better than average condition for which these coins are normally found.

Indeed, and on the bright side, if it weren't for the encrustation I probably wouldn't have been able to afford it. The encrustation was highlighted by the dealer, and the coin priced accordingly. I do like the portrait of Nero.

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I would guess the green was there when it was dug up, possibly from another coin or the surrounding soil.

I have not seen this encrustation on any other silver/billon coin, and had assumed that it may have been caused by bad storage. If the person who originally cleaned the coin stopped there, it would be unwise for me to try and take it further.

I am content to leave the coin as it is, and take the preventative measures to ensure that the growth is not transmitted to other coins. Thanks again for the replies.
Jim
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