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Russia: Imperial Gold Coins Restruck By Soviet Government

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Many years ago I purchased an 1899 10 Rouble gold coin. Based on my knowledge at the time, it looked good and I put it away in the safe next to a nice 1978 Chervonets. A few months ago I was going through the safe and found these 2 coins stuck inside an old passport.

Coin was sent in to PCGS for grading and came back as MS-64 Soviet Restrike. The mintmaster on the rib is AG...

Can someone tell me the story as to when and why the Soviet government restruck these coins? I find it very fascinating and would love a book about the subject I can read...

I can post picture of the coin(s) if anyone wants to see them...

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I can post picture of the coin(s) if anyone wants to see them...

Yes please. Thx!
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According to Krause, 27,600,000 10 ruble coins were struck in 1899. No mention of restrikes, as it does with some 20 francs (France, rooster / Swizerland, 1935D), Austrian ducats or 20 florint 1892 coins. Restrike or not, it's an astounding amount of coins produced that year, specially considering that for other dates only 125 units were coined.

Y# 64 10 ROUBLES
8.60 g., 0.900 Gold 0.2489 oz. AGW Ruler: Nicholas II Obv:
Head left Rev: Crowned double-headed imperial eagle, ribbons
on crown Note: Without mint mark. Moneyer's initials on edge.
Date Mintage F12 VF20 XF40 MS60 MS63
1898 200,000 — — 299 500 600
1899 27,600,000 — — 299 450 550
1899 Inc. above — — 299 500 600
1899 Inc. above — — 299 500 600
1900 6,021,000 — — 299 450 550
Common date — PF60 7,000
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The high mintage figure no doubt includes the restrikes.

As for how, when, and why, I suspect most of them were made in the period prior to the 1930s, when most world governments still did not recognize the USSR as the legitimate government of Russia. A gold coin with the old Tsar would have been trusted by gold dealers outside the USSR far more than an otherwise identical gold coin covered in Communist symbols. So, a matter of pragmatism over ideology.

They certainly wouldn't have been selling them within the USSR.
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Here are the pictures of the Passport buddies:

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Sap, I tend to think you're right.



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Sap, perhaps the guy on the coin is not the Tsar, but Stalin with a fake beard. I will analyze it and try to spot the differences with other imperial coins.
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