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Did My Mom Get Ripped Off For Over $200? 1954 5 Dollar

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 Posted 12/19/2012  5:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add opal to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I took my mom who recently began collecting foreign banknotes to the Baltimore Whitman coin show in November and she bought a few banknotes to be surprise gifts for other family members for Christmas. In a discussion with her today I had found out she spent over $200 on a Canadian banknote so I asked her if it was a 50 or 100 denomination and she replied that it was the 5. I'm unaware of any 5 dollar Canadian note that comes even close to $200 so I finally got her to show it to me and I can't believe what I am looking at.

A 1954 Canadian 5 in barely VF condition (it has several creases and a fold) that the seller said was AU (What a joke!) listed at $225.00 and 'graciously' sold at $200 cash. The catalog only lists it at $125 and I haven't seen one sold online for over $40 in the past several months. You can buy TEN OF THESE in sequential order for half the price of this banknote.

http://i.imgur.com/oRUF8.jpg

Front: http://i.imgur.com/kFnKb.jpg

Reverse: http://i.imgur.com/HHWf5.jpg

Am I missing something here? Is there an error or a rare signature? (Beattie) I've looked and looked and can't find anything that would warrant this ridiculous price and I can't believe that any seller could be so brazen to price something so expensive and to rip off an unsuspecting customer.

Any help would be appreciated, I've never encountered a situation like this before and would like to think that she unsuspectingly bought a note with a rare error on it at least.
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12/19/2012 5:31 pm
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 Posted 12/19/2012  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swrbxxx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a devils face note!
look in the queens hair at the bottom right you will see the devils face.

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The note itself is a "Devil's Face" which makes it more desirable than a modified 1954 series note. You wouldn't find 10 of these uncirculated in sequential order for $100 for sure!

It is hard to grade banknotes from photos but it does look like it could be VF/EF.

One in VF condition with this prefix sold on ebay in November for $42 but yours looks better than that one.

Canadian Coin & Currency had an AU50 listed for $174.95. There is an EF40 on ebay for a B.I.N. price of $100.

I don't have my Charlton Catalog with me right now but will check it when I am home later.

Based on this, I would say that your mother's note would be obtainable at around $75-$100.
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 Posted 12/19/2012  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$200.00 was probably a bit expensive but, it is a devil's Face note and does look like it may even go EF.
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 Posted 12/19/2012  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canuck1us to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Per my 2011 23rd ed. Charlton guide:

BC-31b D/C-H/C 50,000,000 printed. (It is the most common of the Devil's Face $5 varieties)

VG - $20
F - $30
VF - $50
EF - $100
AU - $200
UNC - $325
CH UNC - $400
GEM UNC - $500
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 Posted 12/19/2012  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AZTAMT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He might have over graded it, but every time I have either bought or sold a Devils face, it has always been pretty close to book prices.
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Thanks for the replies everyone, I'm happier seeing that it may only have been double the value rather than 4x or 8x. I was aware that it was a devils face note but I didn't think they had much of a premium since so many were printed.
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From the pictures, the note does look to be EF/AU condition. It's a nice looking note.
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 Posted 12/26/2012  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter4805 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pictures can be deceiving but it certainly looks much better than VF to me.
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