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NCLT Coins Are Not Legal Tender, Including The $20 For $20

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 Posted 10/10/2015  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gord to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SOLAR PENNY
I wouldnt mind a copy of that if you could email it to me..
cheers
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 Posted 10/11/2015  03:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cookiecutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Solar Penny,

I'd also appreciate a copy of that email as well please. I'm getting rid of all my 100 for 100 coins.

Thank you
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 Posted 10/11/2015  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pocket change 50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Send me one too. Always good to have handy. I never cashed mine in. I use them as a way of keeping a savings. This way I don't spend the money and have something pleasing to look at. Sure beats plastic money by far!

I was reading reviews last night on X for X coins. I was surprised by two things the amount of Americans that buy them and the amount of people buying them as a gift, mainly for children.

Now I wonder how many non coin collectors this has converted to collectors? Maybe this is why the mint has something for everyone.

I also wonder what real mintages will be, after coins keep getting returned to the bank? Anyone care to share opinions?
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 Posted 10/16/2015  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justsilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
More and more banks acknowledging NCLT and willing to accept deposit on NCLT.

RBC on Georgia & Burrard, RBC on Cambie & Broadway & TD in Park Royal North, are all accepting deposit on RCM's face for face coins.

p.s. just spoke to TD in Park Royal, he is fully aware NCLT but asked appointment for deposit because staffs were not familiar with NCLT coins.
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 Posted 10/16/2015  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just deposited 20 for 20's and 200's for 200's at RBC.
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 Posted 10/19/2015  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justsilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Deposited $20 for $20 silver coin this morning in Park Royal TD bank.

Manager told me that minimum $50 in face value coins required for exchange cash or for deposit into bank account due to Mint's redemption policy.

Non-TD customers are welcome to exchange from silver coin to cash but maximum $1,500 ( min $50 )
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 Posted 10/20/2015  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cookiecutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tried to deposit four $100 for $100 and BMO wouldn't accept them. I even had the policy that Solar Penny provided. They said they would look into it but that BMO policy was that they had to hire an armoured car to send it back and couldn't Fedex. I think I'll just try a TD Bank.
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 Posted 10/20/2015  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why not try your own bank branch.
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 Posted 10/20/2015  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cookiecutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
John100 - That was my own bank branch. I always bank there
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 Posted 10/20/2015  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dominic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i brought some of my 20X20 that the mint had sent me by mistake to RBC, and to be honest, the first time I showed up there, you could see that they didn't know what to do. however, they looked into it and gave me a call back the next day saying that I could just bring my coins over to deposit at face value.

overall, good experience.
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 Posted 10/20/2015  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just threaten your own branch that you will move your accounts to another banks, they surely not going to lose your business over 400.00 deposit plus the BMO will get a fee from the RCM. The banks generally send all these Nclt and nickel dollars to a regional clearing house and when they adquire enough volume to send back to Ottawa.
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 Posted 10/20/2015  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pocket change 50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its interesting all this discussion on whethere or not X 4 X coins can be deposited at banks. It seems most people that inform the bank of RCM process to be redeemed usually are successful. So I don't really see the risk for Canadian collectors! The odds are better, than for other nclt coins, which within a yr start dropping dramatically in the secondary market. It would be great if they at least held their issue price,sice they,re multiples of silver spot.
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 Posted 10/20/2015  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SolarPenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will continue to buy all the coins in all the X for X series (although now I only buy one of each unless I have to spend more at the end of the year to maintain MC membership). I don't see any risk as long as banks are willing to accept them. However, if discussions began about many banks refusing to accept them when they did in the past then I would be inclined to offload my entire X for X collection.
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 Posted 10/21/2015  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justsilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I mentioned on October 19th's post.

I deposited 148 pcs $20 for $20 on Monday at TD bank ( Park Royal Branch )

It was also first time for that TD branch processing RCM's NCLT coins.

Manager printed out TD " internal " document regarding RCM NCLT redemption procedure.
1. Minimum $50 NCLT required on redemption, ( no maximum )
2. Verify coin's face value
3. Calculate total amount in NCLT coins.
4. Put NCLT coins in envelope then seal.
5. Call Fedex for pickup and ship directly to RCM in Ottawa ( RCM pay Fedex directly )
6. After verification, RCM mails check to TD branch for total NCLT amount + 2% processing fee.

Before tried TD Park Royal Branch, I tried TD branch in North Vancouver but rejected.
Branch manager was too lazy to do all these redemption just because of 2% profit.

Anyway, RBC at Georgia & Burrard, RBC at Cambie & Broadway, TD at Park Royal are accepting NCLT coins.
( Vancouver area )
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 Posted 10/23/2015  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe the whole X for X project was failure. But I think not.

I believe all those returns are as a result of declining silver price. Flippers/Investors/Hoarders got nervous and saw the only logical way out : unload NOW and get their money back.

And this is a totally reasonable reaction given that the coins supposedly hold their face value.

In the end though... the X for X remain pretty interesting pieces to collect (if that word "collecting" even matters anymore).

Personally, of all the RCM coins I ever owned these are the only NCLTs I am betting on.

I can't explain why.

Perhaps it is because they are in a class of their own.
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