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Hello CCF, I was going through some pennies to fill my books and noticed this 1987 D penny. One of the eight pennies I have has a low D mint mark. Has anyone seen this Variety? I Googled it and nothing shows up on a low D mint Variety. Please tell me what you think.  "LOVE THE HUNT!"
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Not a variety, just the typical slightly random placement in the hand-punched mintmark era.
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So basically someone was lazy and didn't punch the mint mark in the location it was indented to be. It should still be a variety, if the person forgot to punch a mint mark it would be?
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Pillar of the Community
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no one "forgot" to punch in the mint mark, since it is obviously there. there have been many similar questions on this forum. the mint mark location can vary a great deal - and as long it is basically below the year - it is considered normal and not any sort of error or variety.
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I admit that's low down  |
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Here is an example that torques me, They graded the new Buffalo nickel with a die crack calling it an error, Speared Bison, I have Delaware Quarters that looks like the horse is spitting and they won't grade them and call it an error but both are die cracks. Do these grading companies have lobbyist that pay them to grade coins. Makes me wonder. "LOVE THE HUNT!"
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Bedrock of the Community
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It should still be a variety, if the person forgot to punch a mint mark it would be?
There is an acceptable amount of variation in the location of the mintmark punch, the only ones of note are mintmarks which are touching another device(rare). If a mint worker forgot to punch the mintmark, it would be called a Philly coin  Quote:They graded the new Buffalo nickel with a die crack calling it an error, Speared Bison, I have Delaware Quarters that looks like the horse is spitting and they won't grade them and call it an error but both are die cracks. You are mistaken in thinking that both are die cracks. The so-called "Speared Bison" is a large die gouge that bisects the buffalo, that is why it attracts more attention than common die cracks. That die gouge is analogous to the "Extra Leaf" Wisconsin quarters which also garner a significant premium. I will also note that some sellers have illegitimately used the term for die cracks but there is only one recognized "Speared Bison". |
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Bedrock of the Community
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They can be anywhere under the date and to the right of the bust and just be a normal mint mark location. No variety. Only a variety if the mint mark is not over a previous punch. Another low one:  The image isn't as clear as I would like. It is in a mint set and I don't consider it valuable enough to break up the mint set for the cent. |
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My point is its still a defect in the die, Its a gouge or a crack cause by stress or a foreign objects causing damage to the dies. There are other coins with gouges that don't get the same attention as the nickel or quarter you mentioned.
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At least your coin still HAS a mint mark.  |
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Die cracks are not necessarily seen as a defect, just normal wear and tear incurred during a die's lifespan. A large die gouge is certainly out of the ordinary and the position of the gouge only adds to the interest. Quote:
There are other coins with gouges that don't get the same attention as the nickel or quarter you mentioned. Really? Do you care to share some? |
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Bio, Man just google die gouges and look at all the pictures of coins with gouges, looks pretty common to me. I have seen several myself through my years of collecting. I have been collecting coins a long time and I am no expert, they are out there yet no interest from the grading companies. Someone sold that bison coin hard. At least the Wisconsin has the appearance of another leaf. That gouge on that nickel looks nothing like a spear it looks like a gouge. By the way your Quote: block you use is rude and condescending. Thank you for replying. I like to read other views out there.
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Die gouges that are a few millimeters long are fairly common, die gouges that cover half the diameter of a coin are NOT common. Quote:
Someone sold that bison coin hard. I will agree with you on that point, the discoverer was quite the "entrepreneur". |
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Hi, I'm a collector of Canadian pennies, but so many US pennies (used to) circulate here that I've taken an interest. I was looking for an answer to the same question as the OP but for 1988-D MM placement, and thought I would post it here rather than start a new thread. I too thought these differences would warrant categorization as distinct varieties. Is it simply that there are too many dies used to bother trying to keep track of them all (1988-D mintage is over 5 billion pennies)? Would most collectors consider the Two Cents I've posted below equivalent, all other things being equal? I actually spotted the difference in these two based on how askew the first coin's "D" was. Thanks!   |
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Just normal positioning variance.
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Pillar of the Community
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Is not each separate die marriage a variety?
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