Actually Spending Dollar Coins

On that note... My first real experience with the Sacagawea dollars was at a toll booth on the San Mateo Bridge (San Francisco Bay). Handed two of them to the toll-taker. A couple of weeks later, I got a bill in the mail for the $2 I allegedly didn't pay plus a $5 fine. Apparently that guy didn't get the memo.

You also have the problem that today nickels work in vending machines, Switch to a cheaper material (nickel plated steel or zinc) and you have all kinds of problems getting machines to accept both types of coin. Same size but significantly differnt weight and electrical characteristics.) Not saying it couldn't be done, but it would mean either reprograming or replacing the coin mechanism in every machine in the country.



If you are over ten or fifteen years old you already know how worthless the dollar is. If you are past yor twenties you REALLY know. Refusing to change the coins or eliminate the dollar not isn't fooling anyone.



True but sometimes the people can have what they want just because they want it. They want gas under a dollar, meat under a dollar a pound, free college tuition, free internet, back in the 60's they wanted the coins to stay the same size and still be silver even though it meant that all the coins the government provided would be melted down and sold as metal for a profit. Parents are supposed to provide for their children too, but you don't give them everything just because they jump up and down saying "I want it, I want it, I want it."

Having said that I will agree with you that going the polymer note route would be an acceptable alternative to replacing the dollar note with a coin.

I see no validity in your comparisons. Please correct me if I am wrong. None of the things mentioned have viable, alternate solutions for the people to have their own way through their (servant the) the government.

The unavoidable costs of processing make no viable alternative to meat (etc.) becoming less expensive.

In fact, when government is involved, the prices skyrocket. One simple example is OH has no governmental milk board. I paid 1.35 a gallon and was told by the people I was visiting that this is normal cost. IN PA we have governmental involvement and its close to 4.00 a gallon - MOST of which the farmer (who the system was set up to protect in what was a much more agrarian society at the time) does not see.





And JFK halves were an example of solving the problem for both parties by using 40% silver (although I have never heard this before as a stated public opinion - I missed it I guess). But after the appeasement was no longer needed, the silver was removed.

But the real issue is that people did not want a non-PM based currency since history had proven this always fails. But the government forced it, and in the process gained omnipotent control over money/power. We are having this discussion b/c of their changeover - values have seriously dropped.




Moot point. No real comparison here. The kids do not elect the parents to serve their best interests. We the people do. And kids are not experienced enough in life to come up with viable solutions for what life throws at them (this is the growing, learning process). A parent teaching a child discipline when there is no other best alternative is a far cry from a supposed freedom-loving people desiring governmental coercion rather than choosing a viable option which the majority of people prefer.

Being brutally honest, but with a , I would appreciate how the "I want it" mindset you mention is not exactly what people desiring the government to force dollar coins on us are unaware they are pushing.


A legitimate way of having the American people retain their own desires is to give the people their preference (polymer and PM - maybe even throw in devaluation). Remember again government coercion is expected by the PEOPLE (and We The People have given them the authority in the Constitution) when a situation will violate the rights of others - and this is what We The People elect them to do.

Or choose the apparent "B/c I want it" mindset which so far has been unable to explain why ignoring a viable alternative to favor government coercion is best.

If there were no more patriotic alternative, I would be in the same boat.

So again I ask for an answer as to why people would ever wish for government coercion when there is absolutely no need for it on this issue?







BTW... my personal feelings on the issue:
Would I spend a dollar coin? Sure - if its in my hand.

I love the Sac's. I don't like most of the Presidential ones.

Do I want them in change? No - I personally don't like carrying any change b/c I don't like my pockets full. Even my knife (part of a multi tool) hangs from my belt as did my keys when I used to drive.

But back to the question asked... why would American-minded people ever wish for government coercion when there is absolutely no need or call for it on this issue? I would like an answer relevant to the issues.

Introspection...

I use them a lot because I hate Dollar Bills...

Fuzzy,