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Ok Bob and january1may, thanks for the replies. I see that you are both in favor of keeping the thread unlocked for future posts. I hadn't considered opening up the thread for non-European coins, but that is something to consider. On the one hand it encourages greater participation, but as a negative, it de-focuses the thread somewhat.
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I was referring specifically to non-European AD dated coins - there shouldn't be that many (in fact prior to 1500 I don't think there are any except a few Crusader types from Acre).
It would be nice to have threads on Arabic dated coins, on non-Arabic ancient dated coins (such as Seleukid, Sassanid, or Byzantine regnal), and perhaps on undated single year types, but of course all three would be a lot more common than AD dated coins of the 15th century.
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I'm leaning toward this second option as it would allow an entire body of work to be stored all in one convenient thread. Plus I still have a bunch more coins I could post from regions I, II, and III... This. I see no reason to lock it.  |
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Ok as the formal part of this thread has now reached a conclusion, I wanted to thank everyone for reading along. I hope you found it somewhat interesting and educational. I also want to acknowledge the contributions of @eddiediz, @pepactonius, and @petrus. I had hoped that this thread would generate a flurry of posts from others interested in the early dated coins of Europe and they stepped up to the plate. By my calculations, we have posted the following totals for the various regions: I: 10 coins II: 6 coins III: 4 coins IV: 8 coins V: 0 coins VI: 0 coins VII: 0 coins VIII: 0 coins We definitely petered out a bit there at the end, but I believe that this is directly related to the scarcity of early dated coins from Italy, France, Switzerland, and Scandinavia. Based on some previous conversations in this thread, I think that there is some support for keeping it open. I too will occasionally post some new coins. In order to keep this thread true to the starting rules, I'll repeat them here: 1. You must own the coin and post photos of your coin. 2. Coins need to be dated using the AD system, from Europe, and made in 1500 or earlier. 3. New finds notwithstanding, if it isn't in Levinson, you shouldn't be posting it here. There are tons of cool coins that do not meet one of these requirements. I know that we'd love to see them, just not in this thread 4. Please only one coin per post (to ease page loads). Thank you for your continued interest in early dated European coins!  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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why limit the coins at a certain date , many of us have coins of this period who can be dated in a period of maximum 20/25 years , In my opinion , a lot of coins will be posted for every region ?albert
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why limit the coins at a certain date , many of us have coins of this period who can be dated in a period of maximum 20/25 years , In my opinion , a lot of coins will be posted for every region ?albert That's the point, there are too many. "AD dated pre-1500 coins" is definite and narrow. (Perhaps too narrow, but that's another question.) There are other places to most non-specifically dated coins - the "walking back by decades" thread, the "28 centuries" thread... or just make your own thread really. I do wonder why exclude non-European AD dated coins though - there can't be that many, since the AD calendar was mainly limited to Europe before 1500 in the first place. Can you think of any types in this category other than Acre dirhams? |
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Yep, I hear you guys. I really like the focus (or narrowness depending on your opinion) of this current thread. However, you are correct that there are a bunch of other interesting coins that are slightly outside of these parameters. Therefore, I'll start a separate thread for coins that also have AD dating, but are not quite as old and/or not from Europe proper.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Here is a half Stuiver from the Netherlands city of Nijmegen dated 1485 AD. The obv inscription is MONETA NOVA NOVIMAGEN while the rev inscription is ANNO DOMINI M CCC LXXXV. It is attributed as Levinson III-152.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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1499 Namen Patard  |
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Yep, I hear you guys. I really like the focus (or narrowness depending on your opinion) of this current thread. However, you are correct that there are a bunch of other interesting coins that are slightly outside of these parameters. Therefore, I'll start a separate thread for coins that also have AD dating, but are not quite as old and/or not from Europe proper. Good idea.  In case anyone missed it...  Dated Coins of 1599 AD or earlier |
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Here is a Double Briquet from the Netherlands Duchy of Brabant dated 1481 AD. The obv inscription is MARIA DEI G DVCISS B G BR Z LI while the rev inscription is SALVV FAC PPLM TVV DNE A 1&81 (there seems to have been a bit of an engraving error at the start of the inscription). The attribution is Levinson II-54.   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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Edited by Spence
11/14/2016 9:52 pm
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Very nice! Just ten years away from where HFBCWG is stuck.  |
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I don't know what it is about that double briquet, but I really like it.
It's an interesting style of G they used.
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It's an interesting style of G they used. I agree. Maybe I should do a post on that particular letter somewhat similar to this post: http://goccf.com/t/264653#2236385"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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Great post @collects82! I should point out that the first coin in your post (the 1482 half-schwertgroschen) could actually be posted in my original thread, which is a bit more restrictive than this one.
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Yours coin looks like it can be attributed as Levinson I-185. If you want, it can join my example of this type over there as a brother. Yep, it is a Levinson I-185 :) Hey Broski!  Edited by Collects82
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