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How Far Back Can We Go? Fourth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864)

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1557 -- Saxony-Albertine, 1 groschen:

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@Errers and Varietys


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I can see that your ancient coin has a Cud (Major Die Break) and Die Cracks on the reverse of your coin.

interesting and thanks for the comment - I did not notice this
as explained on a previous page, these pieces were hand made, so the planchets and dies have many imperfections; they give such coins a unique character that can blend with the post-strike changes

in this case most characteristic feature is the patina, which is a nice blue/gray/brown (photo's taken with daylight exposure) ; probably this coin has been in collections for a very long time

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interesting points
maybe the difference was well known - trading between the Netherlands and the Baltic States was very active in those days, so coins of both types probably came together in one purse


very nice 1558 Half-Groshen Spence !

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1557 Spanish Netherlands
Philipsdaalder County of Brabant
mint of Bruges (mintmaster mark = Lis)

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very nice 1558 Half-Groshen Spence !


Thanks! Here is his older brother by one year (attributed as Kopicki 3249):


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1556 -- Brandenburg, 3 pfennig:

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1556: 1 denár from Hungary.

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Same coin as @pepactonius posted for today (Saurma 4764):


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nice coins today! I am almost finished in this game, can't contribute for 56
a few more years in this century with big gaps in between is what I still can do
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I am almost finished in this game


It has been enjoyable to watch those daalders/thalers/ecus from SPanish Netherlands/Flanders/Brabant over the last weeks. Quite an amazing collection you have!

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Weirdly, it looks like I have all four years in the 1554-1557 range.

I don't have any photos of my 1557 (and missed the date anyway), the 1554 is in an old patchy 2x2 and any photos would almost certainly suck (I tried), and I'm not very sure of the date of the 1555.

But I can post the 1556 coin...

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Free City of Danzig, denar, 1556.
Saurma 5731, I think?

It was already heavily chipped when I got it, but, IIRC, some of the pieces only fell off later.

Sorry for the photo quality; tiny dark coin, smartphone camera. Might try to make a better photo later.
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1555 -- Zurich, 3 kreuzer:

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1555: 1 denár from Hungary.

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1555
not yet dead

Michael von Küenburg Guldiner 1555 Dav.8170

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Michael von Ku#776;enburg


@1c5d7n5m, just a head's up that you can use the "Add Greek Letters" hotlink just above the text box to also add vowels with an umlaut: e.g. Michael von Künburg. It is a fairly new feature here on CCF.

Here is my 3 Kreuzer from the German Free City of Isny. It is attributed as Saurma 1525.


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1554 -- Kempten, 3 kreuzer:

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