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Colonial 9 Deniers 1721 H (French Colonies)

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 Posted 04/13/2018  06:51 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MarcusCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,
How would you grade this?
Personally, I'd go as high as AU. I don't think the lack of detail in the crown is due to wear. For comparison, I've attached an example from the next year,that was graded Au53.

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 Posted 04/13/2018  07:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are tough. I think it is definitely a details coin with ED. The rims are also dented. Doesn't form a perfect circle. On the technical grade, your guess is as good as mine. To be honest, I think most TPG grades on colonials are total BS. Here's mine in vf-30.

If I send it back in next week it would come back as xf-45 or f-15

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 Posted 04/13/2018  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see some corrosion on the left side of the second picture and a noticeable rim flattening thereabout. Looks like AU details corrosion and rim damage unless they determine that these were due to existing planchet flaws.
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 Posted 04/13/2018  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am normally fairly confident when grading.
In this case, I would have been fooled.
I would have bought it, as if it was in Fine condition, also noting that there is some slight surface corrosion on the reverse.

On examination of the AU53 example, I agree that the legend is sharp enough for 53.
On the OP's coin, the legend seems to have suffered some wear, but with only a small detrimental effect to the coin's overall appearance.

Before seeing the AU53 example, I would have graded Fine, but now I would have to say VF.

With this particular coin, my opinion still has to be taken with a grain of salt. I still stand to be corrected.
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 Posted 04/13/2018  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU details, environmental damage
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