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just carl Bedrock of the Community United States 20753 Posts	Posted 05/21/2018 3:03 pm The Mint saves money on energy by not pressing down so hard. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 05/21/2018 10:09 pm Jbuck has it, longer die life and high speed presses You coins used to have a die life of 200 to 500 thousand, now it is closer to a million, Coining speed used to be 30 to 60 coins a minute or one to two per second. Today it's 750 coins per minute or 13 coins per second. When the metal only has .04 seconds to fill the die recesses you don't want the metal to have to move very far at all. Hence lower flatter relief. Edited by Conder101 05/21/2018 10:09 pm Report this Post to the Staff
kbbpll Pillar of the Community United States 4233 Posts	Posted 05/21/2018 11:48 pm Yup, minimize strike pressure, maximize product per second, maximize die life, minimize cost, it all adds up to some really crappy coins. Got 50 cents in change today - these two. The '65 has been kicking around for 53 years. Today I'm like, remember when they made quality coins? 53 more years from now, people will be like, remember when they made coins? Report this Post to the Staff
chafemasterj Pillar of the Community United States 6514 Posts	Posted 05/22/2018 08:10 am with TNG and Finn. Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507 Report this Post to the Staff
chafemasterj Pillar of the Community United States 6514 Posts	Posted 05/22/2018 08:45 am @kbbpll Quote: Today I'm like, remember when they made quality coins? 53 more years from now, people will be like, remember when they made coins? Quite possible. Kinda makes me sad to think that might happen. Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507 Edited by chafemasterj 05/22/2018 08:46 am Report this Post to the Staff
Dorado Bedrock of the Community Canada 24885 Posts	Posted 05/22/2018 09:21 am @ jbuck Quote: As stated above, lower relief allows for longer die life. It also allows for the machinery to run much faster since lower relief requires less time for the image to form. Report this Post to the Staff
cladking Pillar of the Community United States 2272 Posts	Posted 05/22/2018 3:24 pm You can think of lower relief allows time to strike pennies; billions of pennies that aren't needed and make (almost) all of us poorer every time they are made or used. Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps. Report this Post to the Staff
X2an Pillar of the Community Sweden 1078 Posts	Posted 05/22/2018 4:26 pm Worth to point out is that this isn't just the US but a global trend. The first coins that come to mind to me are 1982 Swiss Franks. That year not only did they change all coins to medal orientation, they also notably decreased relief. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188952 Posts	Posted 05/22/2018 4:54 pm Quote: You can think of lower relief allows time to strike pennies; billions of pennies that aren't needed and make (almost) all of us poorer every time they are made or used. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
BStrauss3 Pillar of the Community United States 4593 Posts	Posted 05/23/2018 6:48 pm One of the best examples of this is the Washington quarter and the hair difference between the older version of the design in the modern spaghetti hair. Run your finger over the head on one of the 50 State Quarters and it's almost flat -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ Report this Post to the Staff
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