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How Far Back Can We Go? Fifth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864)

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Kreuzer
1773 BN
Frankfurt
Free town
BN: 1764-89 : Bunsen & Neumeister
Frankfurt mint
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5 kopeks
1773
EM - Ekaterinburg. 1762-1876

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1773 Virginia Half Penny
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Here is a 1/3 Thaler from the German city state of Prussia dated 1773 AD:


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1773 -- Free Imperial City of Nurnburg, 1kreuzer:
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1772 8 reales, Spanish Empire, Viceroyalty of New Spain, Mexico City mint. This is the first year of portrait coinage in silver for the motherland and New World colonies. The Mexico City mint initially chose to keep the orientation of the mintmark the same as the earlier pillar dollar and placed the assayers initials in the same fashion. In 1773 they would reverse their decision and keep all text in the same orientation, although the earlier issues were the same as 1772. This example is the rare variety where the assayers' initials are transposed from FM to MF.

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Very interesting, jgenn!

1772 Great Britain halfpenny:
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Short a G on that ha'penny. Is it regal?
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India, Mughal empire
Currency name: Wafgaon
AH 1173/13 / 177?AD, government year: date off-flan
Ruler and coin location unknown. These coins were minted under different authorities and in different places.
In the name of Shah Alam II (AH1173-1220 / 1760-1806AD)
Ali Gauhar (AH1140-1220 / 1728-1806AD)
Full name: Mirza Abdu'llah Jalal ud-din Abu'l Muzaffar Ham ud-din Muhammad 'Ali Gauhar Shah-i-'Alam II
18th Mughal emperor
Currency: Chandor
(Ja'affarabad urf Chandor)
Variety without extra points under the 'Shah' and under the trisul
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1772 -- Viceroyalty of New Spain, 1 real:
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Here is a 2 Stuiver from West Friesland, The Netherlands dated 1772 AD:



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1772 8 reales, Spanish Empire, Viceroyalty of New Spain, Mexico City mint.


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This early example is the rare variety where the assayers' initials are transposed from FM to MF.


amazing coin !
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She's a wee little thing ...

The legend seems to be struck over something else.

Full image here.

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LOTS of great material over the last few days (years?) gang.

I love those German cityscapes in miniature, the sharp George III coins, and Spanish colonials.

1770s "Who's Who" of western power and politics.
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1773 - Bavaria - 20 Kreuzer

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1773 - Hanau-Münzenberg - 1 Kreuzer

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1773 - Non-regal George III halfpenny - gVF-EF
Struck over an unknown coin or token, possibly a Woods' Hibernia.

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1772 - Well-travelled Austrian 5 Kreuzer of Maria Theresa

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1772 - Prussia - an equally well-travelled 1/3 Thaler

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1772 - France - 1 Sol of Louis XV, Lille mint (WW)
Very worn and struck with heavily clashed and pitted dies on a really crummy planchet; in other words, typical quality for a late Royal Sol.
cf. Gadoury (Royaume) R.280

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