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Need Help Identifying This Well Worn Copper. (Id: Canadian Blacksmith Token)

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 Posted 02/17/2021  12:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tim Elgin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm having trouble finding a silhouette pattern to match this. I know it is very worn and that makes it harder. The problem I am having is that I can find some that are very close and then I run into the problem....both the obverse and reverse are facing the same direction. Could it be counterfeit? Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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Need-Help-Identifying-This-Well-Worn-Copper.-Id:-Canadian-Blacksmith-Token
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 Posted 02/17/2021  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would guess it is a non regal halfpenny or blacksmith token. There should be more legend visible with that much other detail showing. I have seen Britannia facing left and right on others but I too cannot find this variety.
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 Posted 02/17/2021  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ironhorse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the blacksmith's and am learning to identify them is always a challenge
it looks like a bl-40xx to me

might be an angle to follow
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 Posted 02/17/2021  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Elgin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ironhorse...you may be right. I never thought of looking into Canadian types.
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 Posted 02/18/2021  02:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add norantyki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its a blacksmith, probably Lower Canadian.
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That's a Wood 23 blacksmith copper. These circulated in Lower Canada in the mid to late 1830s. Charlton lists the variety as BL-40A1 with a straight reverse or BL-40A2 with an upset reverse.

If I'm not mistaken, the A1's tend to be of a heavier weight than the A2's, and the progressive deterioration of the obverse die is coupled to decreasing weight.
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