Trial Dollar In Bronze ? San Fransisco Mint

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vince1977 Pillar of the Community Netherlands 847 Posts	Posted 06/27/2021 09:49 am Probably a very small change. BUt I have a dollar in bronze which was in a very big collection with many rare pieces. It has been mounted and the edge is ribbed. I hope it is a first strike and it seems strange that it would be a forgery even though the changes are high. I thought the best place for some insight is over here with the American collectors and experts. Report this Post to the Staff

JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21668 Posts	Posted 06/27/2021 10:13 am Do you have the weight? My first impression is that it I a counterfeit. Also that is a 20 Dollar coin known as a Double Eagle Added copy Edited by JimmyD 06/27/2021 10:19 am Report this Post to the Staff
jmkendall Pillar of the Community United States 1590 Posts	Posted 06/27/2021 11:54 am Back then the mint struck all sorts of trial coins in all sorts of metals. I'm not a student of the era but I do know it was a common practice. Report this Post to the Staff
kbbpll Pillar of the Community United States 4233 Posts	Posted 06/27/2021 12:15 pm There are some $20 pattern coins in copper from that era (search Heritage archives for "$20 pattern"), but I can't think of any reason a trial or pattern coin would be struck with a mint mark. A branch mint wouldn't be messing around making their own off-metal planchets, etc. For that reason I'd have to say counterfeit or replica, maybe specifically for a jewelry piece. Obviously the weight is quite low - a regular double eagle is 33.44g. Is there any evidence that it was once gold plated? Report this Post to the Staff
JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21668 Posts	Posted 06/27/2021 12:40 pm Did a little more searching, there were no trial 20 dollar coins struck in 1882 Report this Post to the Staff
Slider23 Pillar of the Community United States 4473 Posts	Posted 06/27/2021 12:49 pm William Barber designed a $50 gold pattern in 1877 with a similar design. Everything is much the same except the S mint mark and twenty dollar. It looks like a novelty piece based on the $50 gold pattern. Edited by Slider23 06/27/2021 12:59 pm Report this Post to the Staff
thq Pillar of the Community United States 3347 Posts	Posted 06/27/2021 12:56 pm Interesting. Here's another 1882-S copper double eagle contemporary counterfeit, with some of the gold plating still intact. There's some verdigris on Liberty's hair. Finding another one pretty much rules out this being a mint trial, but it no doubt has collector value. You'll have to google it. imgur links aren't permitted. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire Edited by thq 06/27/2021 12:58 pm Report this Post to the Staff
vince1977 Pillar of the Community Netherlands 847 Posts	Posted 06/28/2021 04:52 am I did find a detecting find piece in google. Out of curiosity what is a contemporary forgery worthy for a collector? I have seen them in early dutch coins and britain types. But I am not familair with coins like this. I don't collect these pieces myself. Report this Post to the Staff
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