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 Posted 12/24/2025  02:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giljan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Half groat, Lithuania, 1548

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I have a Polish-Lithuanian groat for 1547 with a young bust of Sigismund August (I think the last bust of his on this thread was about 20 years older):
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 Posted 12/25/2025  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giljan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have one more of the Lithuanian half groats fro m 1547.

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 Posted 12/26/2025  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giljan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lithunian half groat 1546

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 Posted 12/26/2025  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My 1546 Lithuanian half groat is a different subtype than giljan's, nicely showing the re-design that took place that year. The eagle on mine is "fluffier" like the earlier half groats of the 1520s that we will see in a few weeks. Giljan's is the new design with the thinner, more stylized eagle. Mine also has the knight looking more like a little boy on a pony:
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 Posted 12/26/2025  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Prussia 1 Groschen 1546:

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 Posted 12/26/2025  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will further confuse the situation in this part of the world with this 1546 groat struck in Krakow by Sigismund I, father of the guy who is producing all those Lithuanian half groats, and overlord of Albert of Prussia (spence's coin).
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This coin has Sigismund "PRIMUS" (1st) as REX POLONIE (King of Poland). But the 1546 Lthuanian half groats shown a few posts ago have his son, Sigismund August also as REX P (King of Poland)!. Apparently because of succession concerns. Sigismund I had his son crowned as co-monarch of Poland all the way back in 1529.

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1545 Polish 1 grosz:
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That looks like 4/5 or 5/5 on the surfaces @tdz. Well done!

Here is a Hungarian Denar dated 1545 with pretty good surfaces too, although it looks like I've washed out the fields a bit in these pics:

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Germany Prussia Groschen 1544

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That looks like 4/5 or 5/5 on the surfaces @tdz. Well done!

Thanks. I'm too lazy to go check, but NGC gave it an AU (55 or 58 I think). One of many examples of older world coins where the technical grade is higher than what the eye suggests. I tend to avoid slabbed coins, but at $80 it was lower than other ungraded examples with good eye appeal when I was shopping for it.
1544 teston of the Duchy of Lorraine with a nice renaissance portrait:
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nice renaissance portrait


Plus above-average letterforms, including one of my favorite for the letter M.

Here is a Reval Schilling dated 1544:

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