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1904-O VAM-4B?

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 Posted 08/17/2015  07:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kdrcoinzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
its difficult to tell from photos, and when I message seller it says he is away until the 22nd but I see the big rim Cud which was my indicator. the rest is hard to make out what do you guys think. also its not graded but in a generic plastic slab probably an air-tite.



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 Posted 08/17/2015  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Date on this one is too close by about half a denticle than the B4. It had me going for a second though on first glance

Plus the mm on a 4b is set and drunkenly tilted right, this one is centered and slightly tilted left
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More likely a 35B.
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The Cud matches 35b..but none of the die markers are present. I'll look at it more closely when I get off work.
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I think it does, the images are so over-exposed they're tough to see. I can see the nose clash line on the reverse from the wing to the first vertical of the letter N and the clash marks above the upper lip. 1904-o is a fun date/mm to chase VAMs.
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At the very first glance I see subtle hints of a clash on both faces which is rotated markedly counterclockwise. A light dot under the neck; a little light line extending up from the wing, and in conjunction with the unmistakable 35B Cud the attribution isn't difficult. It's worth pretty close research once in hand, because I think you're going to see a Mint State coin. Where the collar Cud occurs in the grand scheme of die progression is relevant, and looking at die crack progression while the Cud forms can offer a hint as to how long the collar lasted once it broke to form the Cud. It would draw attention in any collection. Fun coin.
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