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As a type, I believe this is pretty common. My research indicates that they circulated primarily on Prince Edward Island and in Newfoundland starting around 1830. However, what I noticed on this specimen was that the flag on the ship, although a bit worn down, still looked suspiciously like the American Stars & Stripes. It turns out there is such a variety struck by the New York firm of Wright & Bale.

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Another curious aspect of this issue is that the "British" slogan it bears is actually a quote of Napoleon Bonaparte, who in an address to the defeated Austrians following the loss of Ulm in 1805 said:

"Gentlemen: War has its chances. Often victorious, you must expect sometimes to be vanquished. Your master wages against me an unjust war. I say it candidly, I know not for what I am fighting, I know not what he requires of me. He has wished to remind me that I was once a soldier. I trust he will find that I have not forgotten my original avocation. I want nothing on the continent, I desire ships, colonies, and commerce. Their acquisition would be as advantageous to you as to me."

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Nice tidbits of history. I've never seen that token.
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very interesting
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SHIPS COLONIES COMMERCE

Breton #997.
Charlton PE 10-2.
Lees #2.
Gibbs #1.

A similar variety has the initials W & B N.Y. (in small letters) below the left-section of the water line which is
identified as PE 10-1. These are the only Ships / Colonies / Commerce having a US flag.

Grade solid F 15, perhaps VF 20.

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@LC, that is a great piece you posted! You are correct that we see them with some frequency here on CCF. Here are a few:

http://goccf.com/t/148774
http://goccf.com/t/289224
http://goccf.com/t/195084

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A similar variety has the initials W & B N.Y. (in small letters) below the left-section of the water line which isidentified as PE 10-1. These are the only Ships / Colonies / Commerce having a US flag.


Good to know, thank you. I'll have to be on the lookout for one of those.


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You are correct that we see them with some frequency here on CCF. Here are a few:


Plus these:

http://goccf.com/t/176165
http://goccf.com/t/154537

Didn't mean to ....

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That is a very nice one. Many you will encounter will have far less detail. It's a real keeper.
Beats the pants off mine.
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Ships Colonies & Commerce series has a ton of varieties,
US flag being one of them.
F12 - F15, a keeper for sure
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