Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin Auctions300,000 items to help build your collection! Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1967 Jefferson Nickel / Polished Die Clash Or Progressive Indirect Design Transfer?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 6 / Views: 128Next Topic  
New Member
JstnPwll's Avatar
United States
30 Posts
 Posted Today  3H 35M ago Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JstnPwll to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I saw someone else post a nearly identical nickel on Reddit and comments called it Progressive Indirect Design Transfer.

I know the larger shape of Jefferson on the reverse appears very similar to PIDT, but I'm wondering if this is actually a die clash that was polished down a lot so the die could be reused.

1. I believe the first T from TRUST (clashed from the obverse onto the reverse) was missed during polishing and still appears clearly at the bottom corner of the building.

2. The top of the building clashed onto the obverse over the end of the ponytail. These impressions are a lot stronger and more defined than what I understand PIDT is capable of.

3. Jefferson's neck is all but gone, presumably polished away when they were cleaning up the die.

What do you think?


1967-Jefferson-Nickel-/-Polished-Die-Clash-Or-Progressive-Indirect-Design-Transfer?
1967-Jefferson-Nickel-/-Polished-Die-Clash-Or-Progressive-Indirect-Design-Transfer?
1967-Jefferson-Nickel-/-Polished-Die-Clash-Or-Progressive-Indirect-Design-Transfer?
1967-Jefferson-Nickel-/-Polished-Die-Clash-Or-Progressive-Indirect-Design-Transfer?
1967-Jefferson-Nickel-/-Polished-Die-Clash-Or-Progressive-Indirect-Design-Transfer?
Bedrock of the Community
JimmyD's Avatar
Canada
21799 Posts
 Posted Today  3H 28M ago  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, that is PIDT also known as ghosting.
It is a form of Die Deterioration that adds no value.
Edited by JimmyD
Today 3H 24M ago
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
193445 Posts
 Posted Today  3H 20M ago  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting find. You should label it and keep for future reference.
New Member
JstnPwll's Avatar
United States
30 Posts
 Posted Today  3H 19M ago  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JstnPwll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JimmyD, thanks for the reply. Did you read my three points or are they irrelevant?
Bedrock of the Community
Errers and Varietys's Avatar
United States
77459 Posts
 Posted Today  3H 3M ago  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like both PIDT and Die Clash remnants.
Errers and Varietys.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Brandmeister's Avatar
United States
6795 Posts
 Posted Today  2H 35M ago  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obverse looks much more like a clash remnant after heavy die polishing. That's why the low points of Jefferson's neck are missing, starting with the cravat.

The reverse is PIDT. It is much too wide and soft to be a clash. Clashes leave sharply defined creases, and if an engraver had abraded the die face, it would not look like that. It seems strange that the reverse doesn't really match the obverse, but the Mint would pair up used dies to keep striking coins.

In the future, please give us at least one image of each coin face in the proper orientation.
Pillar of the Community
MintedNotPrinted's Avatar
United States
1526 Posts
 Posted Today  1H 28M ago  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MintedNotPrinted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting educational piece!

Very intense polishing on the obverse (under his chin is gone, wow), intense PIDT reverse... No premium IMO, but very interesting piece.
  Previous TopicReplies: 6 / Views: 128Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.23 seconds to rattle this change. Forums