"Just watched cloud atlas on my trip to London... good movie...
When it ended I just sat back and was like "whoa"."
Great point Nam one can not truly appreciate the depth and genius of this script, if they can't get through all 3 hours and all 6 lifetimes and then watch the credits which show you which actor/actress played which role in each lifetime, sometimes different genders even from one life to the next.....
Quote: You cant tell me some US company cant do it
Its called globalism. How many jobs were shipped to China, India and elsewhere during the Bush years with deregulation? Wealth re-distribution=communism
Quote: if the debt was called in all wed have to do is produce it and say here it is. Loaning money though aside from Nuclear weapons is one of the greatest deterrents of conflict. Our economic ties are what keep us from ever having open war with China
They will NOT accept worthless devalued dollars. Nuclear weapons is the only deterrent, economic ties only goes so far, China is not loading up on gold for nothing And IF there were to be a war....read this http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...nited-states
"some of the $1.17 trillion that the U.S. owes China would be converted from debt to "equity". As a result, "China would own U.S. businesses, U.S. infrastructure and U.S. high-value land, all with a U.S. government guarantee against loss." http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/...over-america
@Mac- sorry Mac but you are wrong. China and Japan are the top two holders of US debt. Just look at the T-bill auctions. China will ALWAYS and FOREVER be buying US debt. I see it all the time when the T-bill auctions come up. Thats why I can say with full assurance and with no doubt nor worry, that China is FULLY COMMITTED to buying US debt.
Real estate, thats old news. Many people from all over the world have invested their money in US real estate, japan, Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, Russia, UAE, I can go on and on and on and on.
Which that only supports and gives more strength to my point and position on why the ENTIRE world needs the USA and NOT the other way around. Thats why everyone betting on a global collapse, doom and gloom full nuclear melt down financially speaking is going to be disappointed and left with nothing but hope lol.
Another point I want to make- why on EARTH are you buying gold and silver if its manipulated? IF you really feel the game is rigged.. why buy it? I dont get it?! lol why put your money into something that is supposedly held down? So, see, you cant have it both way.. either you buy it outright and don't believe in manipulation OR you don't buy it because you believe there is manipulation but you cant have it both ways guys
SO again, just to repeat: the United States of America will always continue to successfully sell its debt. Countries such as China both LOVE and NEED to keep buying US debt. Furthermore, the USD will ALWAYS be the reserve currency and ultimate safe haven of the WORLD. Finally, anyone who has bet against a US collapse will be wrong because it wont be happening and you will be waiting for a day that you wont see.
We can't print money out of the nothingness forever without consequences, you know that yup. We can't spend the magic presto appearo money in our government forever either. There WILL be consequences. I don't know what form they will take yet, but we will all see them. The old failsafe is war. It's been smelling allot like that lately.
From the Article Miggs posted "The Pentagon and the Obama administration know all about this [Chinese tech stealing and hacking], but they don't do anything about it."
Quote: Another point I want to make- why on EARTH are you buying gold and silver if its manipulated? IF you really feel the game is rigged.. why buy it? I dont get it?! lol why put your money into something that is supposedly held down? So, see, you cant have it both way.. either you buy it outright and don't believe in manipulation OR you don't buy it because you believe there is manipulation but you cant have it both ways guys
I find this concept very interesting. For me personally, I am in the boat of "It's manipulated and I can't buy it fast enough". I think for most of us in this boat, we believe in equilibrium and ultimately, that the manipulation is finite. When/where/how it ends, who knows, might not be our lifetimes.
With this mindset you really only have one option, buy physical, hold, and be in a "long" position. You can't buy and sell, you aren't in it to make money, you are in it to keep what you have earned already.
Though I do see your point, if you think it's rigged, why even play.
Let me ask a very easy question, Yup; In your expertise and opinion, do you think that precious metals, over a 50 year period, will keep pace with inflation and other economic factors? To re word it a bit, Can I buy a gallon of milk with roughly the same amount of gold/silver today, as I can in 50 years?
I just want to say again, I love your point of view, Yup. Its very ration, seasoned, and non-personal, which is VERY important to have if you are a HFT.
But is this anything new we all steal each others secrets and have been for eons. Just so happens the USA and UK are the best of the best at it. Think of the U571 story and all the code breakers devices we intercepted off of many German you boats....
Its definitely not anything new, but outsourcing like that allowing back doors to be put in making everything very easy is. You used to have to put considerable effort into it. At this rate we might as well just cc them to some emails with research results and save everyone the time and effort
The world economist have all this figured into their scheme and have for years....
After 2008 everything was devalued and in these times the best way to turn things around is too turn back to the ol faithful that has always been there, via precious metals....
On paper in theory when an economy FLOURISHES the pm market goes into a hibernation of sorts flying under the radar. The big sleeper and then is when the real smart money comes out of wood work and buys big....
Do you not think all these think tank economists did not HAMMER all of you with gold and silver commercials the same time a WE buy gold popped up on every corner....
What were they hoping for, maybe a significant percentage of this new age computer tech savoy world to catch on and start trading it in the billions all over the globe, via in person at shops or on the comp....
EVERY-TIME the same piece of gold changes hands SIX times on ebay say a 1 oz. gold coin, how much does the GOV (USPS) and ebay profit, countless amounts of money in long run....
I have sold 120k via pay pal and ebay GLOBALLY since 10/9/10 my first ebay sale date and before that I was nothing more then a bartender server WHO could have never been able to do that before the internet....
Plan was simple RUN it up in 2009 pulling us all on board, then bring us all back to reality next three years with occasional spikes to keep them on board and buying while pulling back in the big picture the whole way til now....
And when all hope is lost and the numbers start to fall for pmz globally, now it having such a larger industry and collecotr demand then ever before, can't help but think the powers to be will push it up to 50 and 2000 again, as it is all part of the endless cycle....
Quote: Its called globalism. How many jobs were shipped to China, India and elsewhere during the Bush years with deregulation?
That started long before Bush and had nothing to do with deregulation and everything to do with the globalization of the world and to some extent unions wanting everyone to be paid like management. Theres some benefits to it since it keeps cost of goods down and really the cost of production is just to high in the USA for most things. No other country would buy them at the prices that have to be charged compared to what they cost elsewhere.
That still doesn't mean there arent US tech companies that couldnt do it. If it means keeping back doors out of systems then yea thats one thing I'm willing to see them spend more on.
Quote: They will NOT accept worthless devalued dollars. Nuclear weapons is the only deterrent, economic ties only goes so far, China is not loading up on gold for nothing
They arent worthless of devalued unless they say they are. Any country with the strongest military in the world who is the biggest global consumer of goods by far doesn't possess a worthless currency.
China is loading up on gold because they have it so why not. Unlike us when they find a resource they go and get it and take advantage of it
Quote: Another point I want to make- why on EARTH are you buying gold and silver if its manipulated?
Like Articsparky says; "We can't print money out of the nothingness forever without consequences" The same goes for manipulation of PM's. I'd rather be 6 years early than 1 day late. Central Banks around the world have been loading up on gold since 2008!! IS there something you know yup that they don't?
Quote: I'm sure some will say these people have something to sell but that doesn't address to the facts presented
If you read the text on his screen when he is talking about Note 20, it says on both years, "The mint did not use treasury silver working stock: If the mint were to use treasury silver working stock, the stock would be replenished as it is used"
The fact that neither of them mention this is a little questionable. Its like "we showed you, so we didn't lie, we just completely ignored this."
"In FY 2011 and 2010, the mint did not deplete the working stock."
09:20 - He is discussing the email he sent, stating that under the freedom of information act, The mint should be able to disclose the trading partner, however he blanks it out in his video? Does he have special clearance? Well easily found enough, the website he captions is http://www.amark.com/about-amark. Ok, well so do we trust that it is in fact A-Mark that the mint said is their trading partner.. is it their only trading partner... A lot of speculation and leading here.
The culprit! HSBC! yea.. HSBC is one of the largest banks in the world, no surprise that A-Mark uses a large international operating bank.
10:25 - More speculation and leading. I'd be willing to bet an NDA was signed between the mint and A-Mark that specifically prevents the sharing of this info with a third party.
Quote: Give me enough latitude and I can make a graph look like Bozo the Clown
Thats really whats happening in this video.. let me show you things that support the opinion I want you to have. They may not be incorrect, but it really easy to manipulate people when you only show them a specific set of factors.
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