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Valued Member
Canada
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Quote: If spot stays where it is youll see less people will to pay 32 for physical on a 24 spot. Who knows? People are paying right now $28-$30 for SAE and flying off the shelves. For sure sellers with silver inventory they paid $27, they're not going to sell under that, to be sure. Until they restock at the new and lower price, it won't go down.
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Valued Member
United States
329 Posts |
yup
Traders trade. Long and Short. How can you be a trader if you don't have a position. Don't you have any money?. If I was as bearish as you I'd be short. First you say you are not a trader and then you say you are a trader. Once you make your mind, perhaps one day you'll be successful and you can get enough mny to become an investor. I have a position that I wn free and clear. I'm so worried abot the next quote, that I'm headed to Bermuda for the next three days.
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Bedrock of the Community
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wjl and the point of that post was what to be counter productive? For someone so successful you have a lot of misunderstandings about the US economy and have basically just said you hate it here and cant wait to leave so  Quote: For sure sellers with silver inventory they paid $27, they're not going to sell under that, to be sure. Until they restock at the new and lower price, it won't go down. Agreed impossible to know for sure. The only way itll go down before a complete turn over would be enough people to not buy. I know of a couple sites that are selling in the 28 range though they dont take backorders so it goes fast. I dont think any of us are surprised though that dealers have been stubborn with prices when their inventory lost over 20% in two days. As long as we dont get wild swings they should adjust. The worst thing that could happen would be those huge drops, a recovery huge drop roller coaster where theyll just keep everything at the highest price the whole time
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2019 Posts |
I was looking around different sites and the ones that do have some stock are selling Canadian maple leafs in the high $29 to $31 range. Thats in Canada currency . Thats like $5 to $6 over spot or so. As long as they are selling out the price wont be dropping any time soon.
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Valued Member
United States
329 Posts |
The point is very simple. I'm sure many or at least some of you have been at this a while. Some may have 5 dollar silver they are sitting on. So what do you really risk by making an incremental purchase after a 4+ std deviation event? Answer is not much. Probably a lot less than this vacation costs me, and certainly less than before. But everything is relative. If you dont have risk capital then this market is not for you in the first place. Everything carries risks and sometimes their is risk in safety.
Edited by wjl 04/22/2013 07:47 am
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Pillar of the Community
Japan
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those who bought at $5 didn't sell at $49 (and back down to $32) ... so why would they sell at $23?
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Quote: The point is very simple. I'm sure many or at least some of you have been at this a while. Some may have 5 dollar silver they are sitting on. So what do you really risk by making an incremental purchase after a 4+ std deviation event? Answer is not much. Probably a lot less than this vacation costs me, and certainly less than before. But everything is relative. If you dont have risk capital then this market is not for you in the first place. Everything carries risks. I tend to think that most of the people posting on this thread are purely Mom and Pop type investors that the brokers and the like take advantage of all the time. They are simply trying to protect their retirement equity and not buying and selling on a daily basis. These guys are putting their money where their mouth is by buying Physical silver and the ratbags dealing in paper silver are destroying their investments for their own advantage without actually buying the metal in the first place and reaping IMHO undeserved and unethical benefits from their pain. On wall st the silver price is about $23 odd per oz but in reality you are struggling to buy the actual item in your hand for $30 per oz . I got out of this game a while ago simply because I felt that the entire market is dishonest to the bone. I do however still have a few kg's of silver that I can touch and look at but I am buggered if I will let some manipulator or whatever tell ME what my metal is worth 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2019 Posts |
The ones who bought at 5 and didnt sell at 49 are not going to sell unless they really need too I would think or they would have sold at 10 if they were just in it to flip for a profit. I dont plan on selling unless I need to and when/if that time comes it wont matter a whole lot what the spot is as I will "need" the money at that time. I enjoy looking at my "stash" too much at this point to worry about all that .... 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Exactly. Many are buying as a store of $$ not for a quick flip. I had some coins saved from the 1960s and didn't get rid of them in the 1980 rage. That's why I don't worry when PM decrease. If they decrease that should mean our whole economy is better. If they increase and increase trouble for the economy but then I habve the PM as a safety net
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2019 Posts |
Quote: These guys are putting their money where their mouth is by buying Physical silver and the ratbags dealing in paper silver are destroying their investments for their own advantage without actually buying the metal in the first place and reaping IMHO undeserved and unethical benefits from their pain. You hit the nail right on the head.... 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3670 Posts |
I will also add that if you divide 1900 by 64.3 (two kilo silver bars) you will see this is $29.54 per oz.. Now then to risk that chunk of change at nearly 30 per oz. after a huge drop and teetering on the edge of fall....
I told guy, hey in seven days when you can pay if market takes huge hit I will let you back out and toss them in the safe and if it recovers I will STILL let you have them at 1900. Who does that, not many?
He replies, oh no done deal at 1900 and if the market crashes more as I expect it will before recovery that means nothing to me as I am looking for LONG TERM investment. Not worried at all thanks again....
Now then that is the real world, real market, real trading and just ONE view or opinion on things and as we all know all our opinions vary and change like the finger prints on the tips of our fingers....
Edited by Silverhawk74 04/22/2013 09:46 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
good morning and I wish you all a great week my friends!
INTERESTING action in, gold,, attempting and going into the empty gap. This bears watching... look for the volume and see how far INTO the gap it gets.
silver, on the other hand, is NOT yet near filling the gap. interesting divergence
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1590 Posts |
Right now, in Central Ohio, 90% goes for spot plus 20%. Eagles are averaging about $28, with a few dealers still holding strong at $32. But note that for every eagle sold at $32, ten are being sold at $28.
As a dealer, I am seeing way more people selling than buying. There are a lot of people that are positive we are seeing the bubble bursting ( in slow motion) before their eyes; and want to sell before it crashes for good. So; now I, and everyone else are buying at $21/oz. If the current pricing stays around $23 then I see eagles down to $26 by the end of the month, and 90% at 19 times face.
I think once the panic physicals die down we might see a further down range; as the physical buying is credited with driving the spot price up; even though the physical market; ie bullion and jewelry, account for only 15% of the market.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2168 Posts |
Funny my dealer here in NJ has said mostly he is selling. Not much coming in. His 90oercent price was 15 percent over spot for dimes/quarters and 20percent over for halves. 30 for eagles. Said he had no bullion gold. He had his regular collectible items though. We will see what happens this week. I just am waiting for it to settle down
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Pillar of the Community
Mexico
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Sounds like the divergance cultural differences OH vs NJ. Anyone want to chime in from CA? TX?
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