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Full Brockage 5 Cent ?

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 Posted 02/08/2012  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goatieman23 to your friends list
I'm not 100% sure about this seller.

It's a bit halfway, I'm a little confused.

Double Strike? Genuine? I'd need time to look at it properly. Maybe after work.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270885305268

Genuine 5c Mis-strike
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270885311044

1948 Halfpenny Double Strike...Need to look at this one too.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270885303000

What do you all think?
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 Posted 02/08/2012  02:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list
It looks to me like the 1c and halfpenny have had similar coins hammered onto them to create the imprints. The 5c looks alright, though I'm not completely sure.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  02:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MobOfRoos to your friends list
On the "5 cent" coin all the writing is in reverse.

This is clearly just a metal disc which has probably been placed in a vice between two 5 cent pieces.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  02:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
There is good reason for the ? behind the title of this thread,will be back soon with concrete evidence of how these are done.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  03:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
When I was looking through that sellers item I thought they have put another coin on top of the coin for sale & hit it with a hammer or something heavy,so I went & got an old 2 cent coin & an old 1 cent coin,i sat the 2 cent on a solid piece of wood then placed the 1 cent on top of the 2 cent & hit the one cent with a hammer,this is the result.

Full-Brockage-5-Cent-?

Full-Brockage-5-Cent-?

AS pointed out back there ^^^^ the 5 cent in that listing is a blank planchet that has had a real 5 cent smacked into both sides of it.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  05:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goatieman23 to your friends list
Appleangel: How did the other side fare? A nice flat spot?
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 Posted 02/08/2012  06:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
Yeah,it strectched the metal that much it almost tore iykwim,i think I hit it to hard as it cut in a fair bit.
A press or vice was probably used for those ones back up there ^^^,someones tool shed errors anyway.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
goatieman,what is the coin in your avi,a threepence but is it a broadstrike or something else,i can't quite make it out pproperly.
BTW your solid 7's & 8 digit radar first prefix note are superb & if I had the coin they would be mine LOL
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 Posted 02/08/2012  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270907543435 looks like a vise job on a real blank.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goatieman23 to your friends list
It is the obverse of a 1958 Threepence. This particular coin I believe is a broadstrike brockage. It's diameter is 17mm instead of 16mm. I purchased it from ebay maybe three years ago as a mistrike. It cost $32.51 plus postage at the end of the auction. I was what I consider to be one of my first little gems. Now I just spend too much. I can't let cheap broadstrikes or brockages pass me. I'll start a brockage post today if I get a chance to photograph them.

As for http://www.ebay.com/itm/37057539188....m1438.l2649, I'm still trying to work it out. It doesn't make much sense because the reverse/brockage letters do not at all overlap the obverse letters. I'm wondering how it could possibly have been struck, because even as a double-struck coin, it doesn't make much sense to me.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
It is the obverse of a 1958 Threepence. This particular coin I believe is a broadstrike brockage. It's diameter is 17mm instead of 16mm. I purchased it from ebay maybe three years ago as a mistrike. It cost $32.51 plus postage at the end of the auction. I was what I consider to be one of my first little gems. Now I just spend too much. I can't let cheap broadstrikes or brockages pass me. I'll start a brockage post today if I get a chance to photograph them.

Yeah mistrike is a very common term on ebay,people don't know what they are so everybody just calls everything mistrikes,i bought a clipped 20 cent coin not long ago described as a mistrike.
I look forward to seeing your pics.
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 Posted 02/10/2012  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list
Very sad to see people wasting so much money on fake errors. The guy making them is a worm.
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 Posted 02/10/2012  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list
Could'nt agree more Mark.
Problem is ebay have no idea if the coins are FAKE or back shed Errors or whatever,Ebay are always saying, We want your ebay experience to be a good one ( tell that to the poor bugga's that have been ripped off & probably don't know it yet, by scum like this )
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 Posted 02/10/2012  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list
re double sided coins.
I saw a noble's catalogue yesterday which had a few double sided coins in it.
There was a 1975 50c with 2 heads and a 1975 (how did they determine this?!?!) 50c with 2 tails.
There was also a 20c, but I am not sure what year it was.
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