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westcoin,  Thanks for Great info! do you have the ebay item # of the VG you picked up last month on ebay to see the listing photos of coin until you shoot some your own photos and post here? Does your coin have the big spur out of left bottom of the 6? Mine, obv shown above, has that small issue of 2 dig/pits in the center of the obverse [G-4?], but rev/back side is much better [VG-8?], below is rev photo, the white spot at 7 o'clock position is just some paper dust and not on coin. you can see start of die crack at rim to left of 1 then it comes out of bottom of 6 then heads into rim under the 9... this coin must have been very near the end of using this die, since it has the big spur on 6 & crack runs Rim-to-Rim?  PS... you got any 3 cent nickels {3CN}, I am looking for a 1880 3CN from G4-F15, nothing too costly.   Edited by Penny4Me
03/27/2012 9:11 pm
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I'll get a shot up later tonight, of my coin, (I do have a good macro lens that works), the auction I won is here [eBayItem]110818303574[/eBayItem] But you can't see the coin, it was in a lot of 5 1869's like I said I've been trying for a long time to get one, this auction paid off and I was pleasantly surprised to find one in G/VG. I'll have to pull it out and shoot it when I get home from Starbucks, having my mocha now! I'll also see if I have any 1880 3¢ nickels, they are one of my other favorite series too, gotta get Kevin Flynn's book on them, I also like the Shield nickels and Ed Fletcher's book on them is a great resource, but I find them too expensive to chase after in the grades I like, if somebody is into varieties the Shield nickel is the series to get into! "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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westcoin, you said... looking for one to upgrade the 1869 picked up last month on ebay. did you see this one on ebay for US $810.00 1869 Two Cent Piece Choice BU Detail Re-cut Date http://www.ebay.com/itm/14072790170....m1423.l2649is this the same coin with same Re-cut Date, it does not have die crack & big spur on left of 6 ? Ya, I cannot see Re-cut Date coin in your lot of 5 1869's... I'LL guess it was bottom middle coin? |
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The one for $810.00 is not the 1869/8 variety it must have the die break, the second one posted is exactly the coin. I had to get home and pull it out it was the bottom left coin in the group of 5 coins. Mine was not as nice as I thought it was :( Anyways as I said I want a VF+ example one day so I'll keep looking. I'm shooting now and will get the photo up in a bit, after dinner (I have strange hours, I eat dinner around 3am usually - the life of an astrophotographer)!
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Here is the close up of my coin's date area, it is definitely not as nice as I thought it was. It will be heading to an acetone bath in the morning, as I noticed a bunch of green gunk on it, it was also corroded in a few spots and that was removed rather roughly (too bad), but at least the photo shows the die break and the spur quite well, the die break extends off more towards the rim on the left than the photo shows, though it is not as late of die state as I'd like either, oh well, not to bad considering the photo I bought it from.   Hope this helps confirm your coin. As to the 3¢ nickel you asked about I don't have any 1880's only a couple of 1881 dates, a VF and a nice AU, sorry. I do have 1865, 1866, 1868, 1873 as well. If you are interested in trading or selling this 2¢ please contact me via e-mail. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440Edited by westcoin
03/28/2012 04:36 am
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I think I can see maybe why they called this a 1869/8...
the die crack caused the 9 to close-up making it appear as an 8 !
My die crack looks like your coin above from rim to rim.
For now, I am going to hold on to it; I have the 3CN coins you listed, not in AU but just good hole fillers!
The guy that has this same coin for $89, does have make offer on it, maybe he will take $50 or less?
You would be surprized how low they sometimes come down -$$ on the Best Offers. I own a few telescopes... I was into astro stuff very much until my back out went very bad, so I cannot do much lifting & bending to use my scope stuff much :( PS... Any ideas of how many of these 1869/8 die break 2 cents exist? One place on web said about 3 dozen = 36, but I think there are more, maybe a few hundred+ ?
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03/28/2012 12:38 pm
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My best guess is around 100-200 pieces probably exist in all grades, with a majority in fine or less. I've only seen a couple in high grades. I'm sure the die broke apart pretty quick after the break went through the date. This is way more rare than the 1867 DDO variety, which I have a few of. Like I mentioned I've been trying to cherry pick one for 15 - 20 years at coin shows and on ebay, teletrade, etc. last month was my first one in all that time. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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I guess I was lucky! It was my first 1869 Two Cent won off ebay last week! The die break was clear in the ebay item photo, I guess others just missed seeing it, because there were only a few bidders. The seller must have missed it too.. Item did not state anything about 1869/8 w/ die crack. |
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Of course and I even have alerts set up to notify me on a bunch of ebay item. I'd have been all over this auction! You did great - congrats with a twinge of jealousy thrown in! "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Westcoin, you did good too! You Got 5 coins for that price and one was the Rare one... Except the seller did state: ' No corrosion or damage just normal wear. '  Were you a little upset when there was some corrosion? Did you say anything to seller about having corrosion or that he sold you a 1869/8 'Rare Coin' Mine did not state about pit on obv, but you could see it in photo. Have you seen any 2 cent coin collection folders that have hole for this 1869/8 & 1867 DDO? I got a Dansco book for 2c & 3CN one page for each, but only hole for the special 1864 small motto. Hey, how about some pics of your 1867 DDOs? That's my next hunt is a 1867 DDO  Edited by Penny4Me
03/28/2012 8:43 pm
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I'll get some photos up soon, and start a new thread for the 1867 DDO coins. I have picked about 10 or so of these, the lower grades are easy to find (well easy enough) they aren't that rare under EF condition. I picked a nice EF/AU at a show on a Sunday last year and traded for a MS64BN in an NGC holder years ago, sold that one for a nice profit! I don't know about the album status of holes, never had one. I have so many I just use a 2x2 box right now, eventually I'll put them into a 3 ring binder to more easily see them all at once, since I collect by die variety there is no real album that would suit me. I have only a couple of major ones to find still the 1864sm DDO, 1865 DDO, 1871 DDO, 1872 DDO, and a couple of RPD's to go. I've had several complete sets but sold my proofs off in the late 1990's (stupid, stupid, stupid) My next full set I'm working towards is a complete MS66RB average grade in mint state and PR65RB in Proofs. I'll never get the varieties in MS66 though. I think my highest graded variety is about MS63BN. Mostly I find RPDs in lower grades as common non mentioned RPDs at shows or on ebay, Teletrade, auctions, etc. I currently have no Proofs - hopefully that will change as my income gets better this year. They are getting expensive now days in high grade. Good luck on the 1867 DDO, it shouldn't take too long before you score one, easy if you buy it listed on ebay I got one for $32.00 last month on ebay (from TECC) the guy you linked the $810.00 1868 Recut auction. I'll buy 1867 DDOs all day long, if the price is right always (just because they are so cool). "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Got more details/pics on the 1869 w/ RPD 18 without Die crack, like the one going for $810 ?
Price seems to be much lower than 1869/8 in Good
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