Cartwheel Two Pence 1797 George III

I agree that this is a beautiful coin.
Regarding grade: copper is soft, and a coin can still grade as "Unc" if it has a few "bagmarks".
Of course, bagmarks may prevent it being "choice" or "gem".
The question becomes, whether there is any wear from circulation apparent.
Sel has asked a question in that regard, but I'm not sure that the answer is easy to see in those pics.

quote: "Perhaps there is a tiny amount of wear on the dear Lady's boobs, but perhaps they are indeed pristine."
- my reading is that the Lady was the Duchess of Richmond, and that she was ... well-circulated.

EK = "edge knock" - the dings on the rim.

What are you people on?
It is so worn.

IMHO I think the good fine grade is very accurate for your coin. There is no way your coin is higher than VF. Here's my example of this coin Sold as AEF purchased by me as being much closer to VF. Unfortunately the allowable photo size doesn't allow for good photos with my skills









Edit: just to illustrate the poor resolution in the photo of the reverse I thought I could read the numeral 2 (bottom of the South east axis of the St Andrews cross)so I used my USB microscope which confirmed it was my perceptual system that was at fault and there was no numeral 2. the perceptual effect was akin to that with the face on Mars!

Thanks for the info I will try that with my next picture. The Chocolate gloss is typical and I believe it is just the way these coins tone. What ever the grade I think the 1 and 2 pense coins from the Soho mint are very important to any modern coin collection as they are the first examples of "modern striking methods"

http://www.omnicoin.com/coin/973636
This is my 1D AU.

I like the "Collector's Coins GB" book, the prices are more realistic but Spink has more on the varieties in it plus more of the older coins as the collector's coins only starts with the 1797 Penny being the oldest I think.

For the British decimal ones I use the "Check Your Change" and for grading coins "The standard guide to grading British coins", all 3 from Rotographic, and all of those 3 cost less than the one Spink.

Next books to get for me is the varieties on the British silver coins and varieties of the bronze coins one, forgot what it's called again...

All of these 1797 in this thread are very nice coins though, they probably will put you on the no-fly list though if you try to check in with one of them in your wallet #weapongradecoin :)

Interesting thread.

Looks like I've found the experts on these coins.

Would anyone care to give me some feedback on one of my recent acquisitions? proclamation penny.

Not my strength, however am becoming more and more interested in earlier British currency.








Any assistance would be appreciated.