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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Thanks, it can't hurt to try that too. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4212 Posts |
Complaints sometimes go unheeded, mainly because your complining to the same people who review fake Gucci bags.
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Valued Member
United States
294 Posts |
I'm no expert, but perhaps a photo of a genuine coin to compare may reinforce your complaint?
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
10045 Posts |
But, every genuine ancient coin looks different.  It's much easier to match details on a confirmed fake than prove any coin is genuine. Thanks for the comments...it's in ebay's court now.
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Moderator
 United States
23731 Posts |
Report sent, hope it helps.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10284 Posts |
Quote: I'm no expert, but perhaps a photo of a genuine coin to compare may reinforce your complaint? That would be ideal, but the report forms supplied by ebay do not allow any kind of html. Besides, they already informed me they have expert people investigate and determine whether coins are counterfeit or not.  a rare message I got after one of my reports to ebayDear TheNickelGuy,
Thanks for reporting this listing to us.
I reviewed this listing and confirmed that it violated our Selling Currency policy. As a result, I removed the listing.
I would venture a guess that there are probably close to a million or more currency listings on ebay at any time. I cannot imagine the man power needed to be able to view every single currency listing at the time it is listed to determine if the listing is fraudulent.
Besides our own internal efforts, we often rely on our members to report violating listings.
Additionally, we work with two groups of coin experts, the Coin Community Watch group and the Coin Forgery ebay group. 
When we are made aware of a potential counterfeit coin whether found internally or reported to us we send the listing to them for review. If they agree that the coin is a counterfeit, they notify us and we remove it.
Please understand that we do not "allow" sellers to defraud buyers. We remove all counterfeit coins or misleading listings when we are made aware of them.
Again, thank you for your report. We appreciate your help in keeping ebay a safe and reputable forum to conduct business.
Sincerely,
Judith ebay Customer Support
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New Member
United States
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I frequently see coins on ebay that are obvious fakes yet there are numerous people bidding on them. I really don't know what to do about this since you really can't contact the bidders or the winner of the coin. It is nice to have a site like this to ask the opinion of others but unfortunately this problem is part of our hobby and something we have to deal with. I haven't let it discourage me. I once won a bid on a denarius of Vitellius and later realized it was a fake. I told the seller this before I paid for it and he apoligized only to put it up for bid again.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Quote: ...they have expert people investigate and determine whether coins are counterfeit or not. I'm glad nothing falls through the cracks.  Btw, this was just one random coin I bothered to look up on a hunch--no doubt there are a few others on ebay. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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We used to see other bidders names in the bidder list, people were contacting the under-bidders and selling outside ebay, but now they hide them with codes like T**g. ebay claimed they were protecting bidder identities and preventing outside sales and phishing. I used to point out things to bidders about listing circumstances such as reproductions, fake coins or stolen images. This is flawed however since you can still contact a bidder during an auction by researching feedback. This way you can see what they said, who they are, and what they bid on. So you can still contact anyone by doing an advanced search by bidder. It just takes more effort on figuring out who is who and what they want to buy. You can also make a case on shill bidding this way but you have to do some thinking. I don't think ebay wants to lose bids and final value fees so they make it more difficult to tip off the bidders and they have less intervention to worry about and less to answer to.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Quote: So you can still contact anyone by doing an advanced search by bidder. How do you find someone as cryptic as "m***k (290)" 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: How do you find someone as cryptic as "m***k (290)" I already tried finding this m***k (290) so don't waste your time on that tonight. You'll have to wait for that item to receive feedback or get feedback from the seller. Match the listing description to the members name. In the listing that has ended, this "m***k (290)" may have been bidding on similar items. In this case, I did a search on STATER CORINTH PEGAS PEGASUS looking for completed items where a bidder had around 290 feedback. Often times ebay masks the name but still leaves a couple actual letters in it. Then check the feedback rec and left by the seller. This is just an example. It is much easier doing a search for somebody who bid on something a bit more specific than ancient coins. Perhaps you can solve it easier for somebody who is bidding on or had bid on MAB GRIPS with around 1207 feedback. ( In this case feedback has not been left yet but you can bookmark the listing for later ) Like I said, it takes some thinking and some leg work but it can be done. Just for fun, if I remember, and feel like following through to make the point, I can and might eventually find out who this bidder "m***k (290)" was and I will know what they are shopping for a little ways down the road. that is if feedback gets left.
Edited by TNG 03/30/2012 10:36 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
10045 Posts |
Quote: Match the listing description to the members name. In the listing that has ended, this "m***k (290)" may have been bidding on similar items. Yeah--that is what I expected would be required to find this person. Well, I may just track down whomever is the highest bidder...I suspect this one will close over $200, and that irks me. 
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Valued Member
United States
294 Posts |
Quote:That would be ideal, but the report forms supplied by ebay do not allow any kind of html. Not for them, but for some of us who don't quite see the difference. I took the original post as a photo of a known counterfeit being compared to the coin in question. I wouldn't blindly report anything like this to ebay or anybody else Educate me, that's why I'm here.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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This auction got up to $237.50, but ended happily thanks to all concerned. ebay just contacted me: "Thanks for reporting this listing to us. I sent your report to our Coin Community Watch group for their review and they agreed with your assessment. As a result, I removed the listing."  Score one for the team! 
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Moderator
 United States
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