| Author |
 Replies: 16 / Views: 6,643 |
Page 2 of 2
|
|
|
|
Valued Member
 United States
58 Posts |
Nicwinner @ Thanks for your reply / oppinion. I really appreciate it
|
|
Valued Member
United States
58 Posts |
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Australia
3831 Posts |
Can't see the details clearly but it seems the head is facing the other direction? Could be because of the photo.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Philippines
1156 Posts |
Hi Malikot! very nice 1904S you have there. it looks good. The chinese chops clearly overlaps over the Puerto Rico emblem, and it has more than one chop, which means that coin was a real great world traveler First it got minted in San Francisco USA in 1904, then traveled to the Philippines where it went circulating around, then found it's way to Puerto Rico which at that time was lacking its own circulating coins, so it got the Puerto Rico emblem stamped on it to make it it's legal currency coin, then somehow it traveled back to the Philippines, probably carried by chinese traders, where it got chopped in chinese characters to become legal tender among the chinese traders, since there are variants in the chinese language it got chopped in different chinese ways. Finally after more than 100 years, it landed in your lap, nice coin! I would bid on it if it appeared in a coin auction  Over here we have lots of collectors specializing in Chopped Philippine peso coins, because there's a lot of history there...  |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
1666 Posts |
Honestly I'm surprised you paid like $230 for it. I believe this is a modern concoction.
|
|
Valued Member
United States
58 Posts |
= gxseries @ Can't see the details clearly but it seems the head is facing the other direction? Could be because of the photo. =
gxseries, the direction of the head is the same direction as of the San Juan, Puerto Rico's Logo. Sorry about the poor quality of the photo. Thanks !
|
|
Valued Member
United States
58 Posts |
Nic, Thanks for the Info.
|
|
Valued Member
United States
58 Posts |
Numismat, Actually I will go higher more $500 for this coin. I'm just very curious about this piece. Thanks
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
1666 Posts |
The problem is that this counterstamp does not appear to be in archival reference materials and kind of just popped up out of nowhere. Combined with the fact that they are all coming from the same seller, who happens to have somewhat of a history with shady dealing, and it seems all too suspicious.
Edited by Numismat
09/24/2012 03:04 am
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Philippines
1156 Posts |
The head facing the other way could just be the indentation of the countermark at the other side of the coin. very often deformation occurs on the other side of the counterstrike, it's not bad, it just makes the coin more genuine as you can actually see the direction of how the countermarks was punched
Thanks too malikot, nice coin
|
|
Valued Member
United States
58 Posts |
Numistat @ That's why right now I'm contacting the City of San Juan, Puerto Rico to trace the history of this counter marks. Anyways, I have see a San Juan Proof coin, PLease see below.   |
|
Pillar of the Community
Philippines
1156 Posts |
thats a great looking san juan silver coin! is it crown size?
btw- our last auction had a 1903 Phil Peso with 3 chopmarks that sold for us$95 it was in EF. countermark with chops are valued more
|
|
Valued Member
United States
58 Posts |
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
1156 Posts |
Quote:
That's why right now I'm contacting the City of San Juan, Puerto Rico to trace the history of this counter marks. After 3-1/2 years, what have you found out? |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
5362 Posts |
Old but interesting thread that I had missed.
I do not believe such a countermark exists - it is far too well made to date before the 1960s. I believe it is a simple modern fabrication.
The example on the pillar dollar is far fetched. If by any remote chance both are genuine you have to question whether or not you believe both coins were in circulation at the same time.
The pair of coins to me prove it is a forgery nothing more - a curio worth a few dollars over melt.
|
|
Page 2 of 2
|
Replies: 16 / Views: 6,643 |
Page 2 of 2
|
First Page
Posted 09/15/2012 5:59 pm
