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 Posted 04/10/2012  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
Magnentius (350-353 AD, against Constantius II)
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Macrianus Minor (with Macrianus Major and Quietus 260-261AD, against Gallienus)
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 Posted 04/10/2012  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
Macrianuns Minor, his brother (Quietus) and his father (Macrianus Major) were an interesting bunch.

Mac. Major had a deformed leg so would not have been able to be an emperor himself. But, like most of the power-crazed, blood-thirsty chancers we call 'usurpers' it didn't stop him from having a go in the name of his sons

Wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrianus_Major
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04/10/2012 4:44 pm
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 Posted 04/10/2012  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list
Really like the Magnus Maximus btw Valiant.
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 Posted 04/10/2012  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
Thanks bobby. Very nice coins guys! The Postumus sure looks like a shiny one, and I really like the bust on your Magnentius bobby. And interesting history you provided there. Man these guys will find any way and any excuse to get on the throne huh! Magnus Maximus's history is pretty interesting as well. He won the support of his troops in Britain and crossed into Gaul and ended up killing Gratian, then took over the Western empire. After his death he became integrated into British and Welsh mythology:
http://www.roman-emperors.org/madmax.htm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/history/...wledig.shtml
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 Posted 04/10/2012  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list
Lets start an argument: Define Usurper. If you say someone who declared himself emperor we will have to include Augustus, Septimius Severus and several other major players. Perhaps we have to say ....and lost?
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 Posted 04/10/2012  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
Yeah basically, the unsuccessful ones that don't go on lists of legitimate and recognized emperors that include Augustus, etc.
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Great links Valiant! I was un-aware of a lot of that interesting info relating to MM .

If you dont know already have a look at the Roman King Arthur theories, again interesting and certainly as plausible as any of the other theories relating to the subject. Its great to see links to the people on our coins in our cultures today.

As far as defining 'Usurper' its not easy, if possible at all! It reminds me of the often tedious hair-splitting of 'Un-official', Semi-official, Official, Counterfeit, Fake debate.

All I will say is that those who were ultimately unsuccessful in their attempts to gain power are often painted as 'usurpers' whereas these who were successful are shown as heroic liberators. History is always written by the victors so I guess this is not a surprise. This is the best rule I can think of as a way of determining a 'usurper'?
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 Posted 04/10/2012  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Postumus RIV II 212 Lyons mint.



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 Posted 04/10/2012  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
Nice coin echizento! Great detail on yours!
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WOW there are some nice coins on this thread. I really like the magnentius coins and there are some nice postumus coins too. Thats a really nice Macrianus Minor bobbyhemlet. I dont have much for rarity or high grade in this department but here is one of mine. I posted this one before but its become a favorite of mine.

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 Posted 04/10/2012  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
its very similar to yours echizento
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 Posted 04/10/2012  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
Pretty nice jessvc1!
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 Posted 04/10/2012  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
Here is my best magnentius. I see yours has much of the legend showing. Mine almost has no legend. Post-Your-Usurpers!
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Still a nice-looking coin IMO I like how prominent the Chi-Rho is. Just curious, how much did you pay for it?
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I paid around $50 for this coin and its much better then my other magnentius thats in poor condition.
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