What Would You Grade This One ?

These were taken outside in the shade.







Any better Walter or still not what your looking for ?

All your photos are under uniform lighting, this will hide surface damage (or it will show as discolouration). I generally avoid purchasing coins from photographs such as these as they can hide cleaning hairlines and other types of surface damage.



Here's an example of what I consider an ideal photo. It doesn't make the coin look as good as it shows every little defect, but it's much more useful in grading a coin. I achieve this by mounting the camera at 90 degrees to the coin and everything on auto with the flash on - no additional lighting is used. I photograph all my coins like this except for mirror proofs.

he he just realised your coin was in a 2x2, was so intently checking out the detail that I didn't realise.
It must be holding some static or have something inside the 2x2 because each different time you take a pic it has some dust or fluff on it. I don't think it's on the coin.

Yeah I think that was on the lense or the 2x2 AC

I think I've got it right this time,i hope anyway.

AA, On the first 2 Rev pictures, what is peeping out under the H of shilling? I can't see it on the subsequent pictures, just the first 2.

I guess it could be a Die Polish Line. Or is there really nothing there at all and it's just an optical illusion?

Nice coin anyway!

OK,thanks for all the replies.
Nancy there is a tiny die crack coming out of the bottom of the left hand leg of the H, is that what you mean ?

Yeah there's definitely another little bit above the cross bar,i take it it's like a slip with the tool they use too engrave the letters out that does this ?

I'm so disappointed in my inability to recognise this coin as being cleaned,i really need to think about whether to continue collecting at all.