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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Definitely a mechanical error it is obviously a type 1, the head isn't the only thing that is full.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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ROF 
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Pillar of the Community
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I have seen counterfiet coins slabbed. It happens.
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Pillar of the Community
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...in counterfeit slabs. 
Edited by oih82w8 08/15/2012 1:57 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: ...in counterfeit slabs.  $50 on AliBaba. $45/each if ordered in quantities of 50 or more.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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But on a more serious note more in tune with the OP, the only slabbed coin collection I'd consider is collecting PCGS, NGS and ANACS slabs with mistakes on their labels.
Puts a whole new spin on the phrase "error collector" :-)
Edited by SteveCaruso 08/15/2012 5:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Shows what I have been saying. They are no better than ANACS or ICG. And YES, the over grade all the time. I have posted several that my Pekingese could have graded better.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: Shows what I have been saying. They are no better than ANACS or ICG. I can guarantee you theres ANACS and ICG error coins out there
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Pillar of the Community
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I think most of the time these types of errors occur at the "data entry" level. Most likely a minimum wage worker entering data from the graders notes. They are actually pretty common, I've seen it with all 3 TPG's.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thats actually what I was thinking. Its probably not very hard to click the wrong box for the type and out comes that label. Unless of course we believe those 3 people slab and label them all too 
Edited by basebal21 08/15/2012 8:07 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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basebal, thats is EXACTLY my point. They are NO BETTER than the others. Not saying ANACS or ICG couldnt have the same issue. If PCGS were sooooooooooo much better, they wouldnt. Thats the point.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: If PCGS were sooooooooooo much better, they wouldnt. Thats the point.
I would have to respectfully disagree with that. No matter who it is its human, mistakes will happen. Space shuttles blow up, planes crash and they go through years of quality control. Nothing humans do will ever be perfect and I dont see coin grading any different. Theyve done what 28 million coins by this point, not all will be perfect. A company shouldnt be judged by a single coin rather the work as a whole
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I bought that SLQ labeled a Type II and it now resides in a 20th Century type set holder by Capital Plastics. I was looking for a Type I and found this one labeled incorrectly. The Type I is worth slightly more than a Type II and the toning looks worse in the photograph than in hand. The price was actually quite reasonable at $507.50 Numismedia lists a 1917-S MS-63FH at $720.00. What I really like about the coin is the rivets on the left side of the shield are all distinct as is the small shield in the center. In The Official Red Book, A Guide Book of United States Type Coins by Q. David Bowers he states that to have all three of the following, full head, distinct rivets and center of the shield on a SLQ is quite scarce. Typically they are found with one, sometimes two, of those characteristics well defined. The 1920 I have in my other 20th Century type set is as well struck. The graders don't type the labels I found out and yes they do make mistakes, quite a lot actually. I'm surprised the grading services don't have a quality control check of the labels before the slabs are sealed to verify the label matches the coin's type, date and mintmark. I can imagine if they make mistakes with the dates and types they also make mistakes with the grade both up and down. That's scary. I'm sure they won't admit to those mistakes or their credibility would vanish. Ed ANA LM-3175
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@jokingjoker - At PCGS the graders enter their own grades into their system and the labels are checked 3 times. There really isn't any excuse for these goofs other than the Law of Large Numbers. :-)
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Who checks the labels three times considering it isn't printed until the encapsulation step? All the graders see is a barcode sticker on the flip.
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