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You could check to see if the weight is a bit light. The roundness on one side might indicate it was struck on an incomplete planchet (elliptical clip).
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Rest in Peace
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Wish I could weight it, but don't have a very accurate scale...!
What is a "incomplete planchet" Scissel...?
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Rest in Peace
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Yikes Zonad...That coin makes mine look like a proof coin...  Soooooo, what cause that, I mean if mine is a lesser effect of what your coin is...?
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When you see a normal clipped coin there is a part of the coin missing. Yours and mine are the result of clips or maybe they are the clip.
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Rest in Peace
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OK Zonad, I think I am starting to understand, but I still am curious as to how they are formed in the mint..?
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Suppose the plate only moved a hair and the cookie cutter rmover only a sliver off the edge of the already cut cookie. You would have an almost round cookie like yours. A little more and the cut cookie would look more like mine. This all happened before our coins were struck.
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Rest in Peace
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Thank you my friend....Understood now.
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I have a question, Zonad. Are there any distinguishing marks to tell if a coin has been honestly clipped, like the example you have shown, rather than being a coin that has been skillfully filed off to produce that "clipped cookie" shape? Design flowing to the edge, etc, like on traditional clipped coins? I've seen these on ebay a number of times (almost always American coins, I've noticed) and always shied away because I've never been able to satisfy myself that I was getting the real deal. But to have a legitimate one in my collection would be sweet, if I knew what to look for.
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If you look close to the letters near the edge which was not restricted from expanding by the collar you will see weakness in the strike. Look at GRATIA on my coin. It would not be noticeable on werts coin but the edge should show a correct cutting pattern.i think where the edge of his changes from the restricted by collar to unrestricted it will have details which will be recognizable but I have more to learn and can't tell you what they are. Much like recognizable features on normal clipped coins.
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Thanks, Zonad. I took a closer at yours and I see what you mean with the letters right at the edge of the clip. It does remind me of the weak or "flowing" letters on a regular clipped coin, which makes sense to me. Maybe you know, or possibly someone else, is there a Blakesley effect (or some equivalent) on these coins as well?
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Rest in Peace
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Keep talking guys...I am learning to. Or anyone else that can help out here... Found another 1953 nickel (in bad shape) that has the same affect...Must be common for that year. 
Edited by wert 08/27/2012 2:44 pm
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Thanks for the great read Zonad.
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Rest in Peace
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Thanks for the link Zonad
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