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Just Reported This One - Fugio

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 Posted 08/29/2012  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
But why put "Gallery Mint Museum" on the description, for vermontensium's bright eyes to find, if they're trying to pass it off as real?
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 Posted 08/30/2012  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
Do the same rules apply for marking it a copy if it's not legal tender? Technically, you could go into a store and buy a gum ball with a chain cent, but not a fugio cent.
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 Posted 08/30/2012  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
I was wondering about that with barryg's Confederate reproductions. The Fugio was authorized by Congress; was its legal tender status revoked with the establishment of the US Mint?
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 Posted 08/30/2012  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list

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It might be someone else's copy. Heck it might even be real. From the images I can't tell. (I lean toward it being someone else's copy.


Kind of my thoughts exactly. We don't have it in hand therefore, we can't weigh it. Looks very thin though...at least from what I can see from the sellers pic.
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 Posted 08/30/2012  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I just emailed him about weight. Lets see what his response is.
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 Posted 08/30/2012  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
The Hobby Protection Act requires imitation numismatic items to be marked with COPY. They define imitation numismatic item to be something that represents itself as a genuine numismatic item but which it is not. Legal tender status does not matter. World coins, ancients, tokens, and medals are all numismatic items even though none are legal tender. Fantasy CSA coin are purporting to be numismatic items, Confederate coins, so they need to be marked as well. This is why I believe Carr's fantasies need to be marked. They purport to be 1964-D Peace dollars, 1931 SLQ, 1964 Franklin half etc but they are not, so they need to be marked as well according to the law.
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 Posted 08/31/2012  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I have to be honest, I hardly ever read the area where he actually says its from "Gallery Mint Museum". I usually look at the pictures and read the description and that's usually it. I am sure I am not the only one that does this and he is probably betting on that and that's why he doesn't mention it anywhere in the actual description he typed out
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 Posted 08/31/2012  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
That's my point. If you don't mention that at all, you have plausible deniability ("I found it at an estate sale!").
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 Posted 09/02/2012  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I reported it a couple days ago also and it is still up. Looks like they may allow it to finish
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 Posted 09/03/2012  06:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
I asked him if was actually a Gallery mint copy. His answer was "How can you tell if it is or not?"
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 Posted 09/03/2012  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I just got an email from ebay saying they checked it and have removed it because it is a definite fake
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 Posted 09/03/2012  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
That's "how you can tell if it is or not!" I still wish I knew what exactly this thing was, though, and the path it took to this listing as a genuine Fugio.
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 Posted 09/04/2012  03:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
looked like your everyday cast counterfeit to me
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 Posted 09/04/2012  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
Say what you will about the Gallery Mint Museum, cast copies don't seem to be what they made. Was this seller trying to lie twice in the same listing? "It's the real thing! Don't buy that?... OK, how about, it's one of those really good copies they used to make! No good?... OK, it's chocolate, but it's that really good chocolate, from, like, Belgium or something! No?... Um... Would you believe....."
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 Posted 09/04/2012  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
that is what Conder said on the other page, he said it is not even a Gallery Mint piece because even their copies were better made than that one was. I believe that is why he emailed the seller asking him it was a Gallery Mint Museum piece
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