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New Member
 United States
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Again, my scans aren't great, but I added the backs on the first post. I will attempt a better scan. From left to right, 1856, 1857, 1858lg, 1858sm. It amazes me that the 1856 scans darker than the rest of the Flying Eagles because it actually has more of a sheen. The 1857 is actually darker and the 1858 large is more gold/blonde. They are very pretty in person. : - )
Edited by edlon523 03/28/2007 9:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would also recommend prior to submitting anywhere, of taking very very good pictures, preferably with close-ups/macros, or with the use of a camera micrscope just to make sure any coin you send in is the same one that you get back. Certainly not suggesting that the top tier TPG's are not trustworthy. Just being on the completely safe side is all.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Can you get a closer picture of the date?
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New Member
 United States
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Again, I am not an artist at scanning the coins, but I tried to get a larger shot of the date. I added the picture to the first post. By the way, I have been in contact with a local dealer who is well respected, has a long term business and has been listed as an authorized dealer with pcgs. The gentleman I spoke with seemed to be upfront, honest and sincere and comes highly recommended by smaller shops that I called. I still want to check with the BBB. Is there any other organizations I should follow up with to check on their business practices? I checked into shows coming to the area, but none where coming close enough or soon enough to be of help. I will feel safer when I get the coins authenticated (or whatever the result is) as soon as possible. All of the sound advise you have given in these posts have been A-1, Top Shelf, All Aces. Much appreciated and truly thankful. I'll keep you posted.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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quote: would also recommend prior to submitting anywhere, of taking very very good pictures, preferably with close-ups/macros, or with the use of a camera micrscope just to make sure any coin you send in is the same one that you get back. Certainly not suggesting that the top tier TPG's are not trustworthy. Just being on the completely safe side is all.
Good advice. While I fully trust the top TPGs (ANACS, ICG, NCG, PCGS) to not switch coins, I do NOT trust most of the other grading companies nor do I trust many dealers to not switch coins. If it were my 56 FE, I'd take lots of pics before handing it over to anyone or any organization. Further, there's also the insurance aspect: coins such as this can be "fingerprinted" and with a coin of this potential value, an insurance company would want a solid identity photo of the coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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WOW I hope that 1856 is real! I don't want to assume anything- because I could well be wrong- so i'll just lie low, let the experts do the talking, and pray.
Andrew
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United States
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I hope Edlon523 gives us an update soon or did he and I missed it? Sometimes my curiosity gets the best of me.  Fishnwidow
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New Member
 United States
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Sorry about that, I am waiting for the coin to be authenticated. I had the coin looked at by a dealer and he was unable to confirm if the coin was faked. There are three points on the coin that seem to support that it is real, but one point that puts its authenticity in doubt. It has definitely been cleaned in my opinion because of the reflective light, thus the bad pictures and scan. I should be getting some kind of information back this week and will certainly keep you updated.
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New Member
 United States
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wanted to add that the coin was sent to a third party for authentication.
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New Member
 United States
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The verdict is in...the coin is indeed fake. The date had been altered and the surface was too reflective, indicating cleaning or work by a laser, whatever these thieves do  . What bothers me is thinking that my late father was taken by some thief. I want to thank everyone in the community for their valuable advice. You all have given me great pointers on how to proceed and what steps to take. Being a newbie, you have helped me avoid the typical pratfalls that could have happened. When I went to see my local coin dealer, I got the proverbial heebie jeebies. I felt like I was dealing with a used car salesman. This guy checked out and all but my gut instinct is that I was being taken. You guys gave me enough knowledge to know to get up and move on, to find another dealer. Thanks for helping me out. You know I'm hooked now !!!!! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sorry to hear it was a fake...but I guess that's life.
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Valued Member
United States
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Valued Member
United States
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Edlon523:
I know the 1856 turned out to be a fake, buy the Flying Eagles cents 1857, 58 Small & 58 large are always in demand.
The first 1800's coin I found was the 1857 on the railroad tracks walking back from Little League practice.
Ron (ronaldb112)
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