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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The rolls don't come sealed from the mint, only the green monster boxes are sealed with straps. Once opened and rolls removed the caps can be taken off and rolls scanned for gem coins.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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The rolls from APMEX that are part of this program are sealed. It is called MintDirect. They do the same for Maples. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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My plan is to someday have a monster box of various dates. At that point I would send them in to be graded. I wouldnt do that personally for a few reasons. The biggest reason is if you do that you cant get the bulk submission price. Youll be paying 15-20 dollars for every coin. The other reason is you also possible lack of 70s. Boxes wont vary much but individual rolls from a box easily couldnt have a single 70. Its just going to cost a lot. If you want coins graded a 70 always just buy them that way |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
616 Posts |
Yup, my experience with tubes is they aren't tightly packed and indeed the coins move. I know several people here have mentioned some dealers putting a packing peanut under the lid before shipping to keep the coins from moving.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3670 Posts |
Five ms-70 per monster box of 500 on average I have heard..... That is much loupe work, time, etc.. And just because you think it may grade 70 at pcgs or ngc does not mean it won't come back 69..... I noticed a 2006 set of three ASE in the huge slab I hate and it was up over 1200 ms-70 lol. The same seller had 69 set to that went around 300..... To me that is insane to pay 900 more for a single digit. Like paying 1000z too much on a name brand clothing.... |
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Bedrock of the Community
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5 is way to low of an average. Id believe it for a single box but if that was the average no dealer would send them in. Around 200 is probably the average for all the boxes with any individual box having more or less depending on whats in there.
The numismatic ASEs like the 06 set are just an entirely different animal. The 70s are rather rare which drives up there price since more people want them than number of sets and like you mentioned no matter how much you try its not guaranteed to get a 70.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm not one of those who believes grading/slabbing low-cost, low-premium silver bullion coins is an investment that will provide a prompt, effective return on the investment. Right now, you can buy '13 ASEs for $32.50 each (Goldmart) and the coins from those Mint Direct tubes cost $34.45 each ( APMEX). I'm not certain that a $30 per coin grading/slabbing fee is going to add $30 right onto the value of those coins and that the repriced coin will promptly sell for over that new price (after ebay fee, Paypal fee and all other involved expenses). Not being doubtful here, but every time I try to get fancy and complicated, my plans all fall to pieces... I wish all you guys/ladies Happy Holidays and my personal best wishes for the new year and with your industrious slabbing/grading efforts. I'm going to just keep on stuffing my new current year ASEs into mint tubes and the used monster box that I'm gradually filling with them and I'll leave the grading/slabbing to those who have faith in it. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks to all. I guess my point was lost. I'm looking for tubes that have not been opened by collectors, dealers, "cherry pickers", etc. I don't want coins that have been layed out on the table, counter, etc. I'm not saying I'm sending them in to be graded now. I just don't want to buy a roll of rejects. As I stated the LCS I go to brings out rolls, opens them and slides the coins out onto the counter. If he does this 4-5 times for prospective buyers those coins are going to end up dinged, and scratched. If I can pay $1 a coins extra and get untouched coins, I'll do it. I just wondered if any other companies offered the service. I guess there are none. Although the people sending in the 2011 five coins set made a killing by having the coins graded. Sorry if it got lost in translation.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1200 Posts |
In that case..... Just buy tubes from Goldmart, Provident or APMEX. They sell and send out so many tubes that they don't have the time to spend playing with them. Provident and APMEX even sell the empty boxes and tubes they have left over from all the small partial orders they fill. When I get tubes (of ASEs, CSMs and Philharmonics) from Goldmart, the coins have always been pristine and have shown no sign of being handled---not even one partial fingerprint. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3670 Posts |
I see brand new sealed ASE roll of 20's end all the time lately at around 710 bucks..... Sold two sealed rolls myself as of late.... Stick to that esp if that is total shipped, and go from there.... |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
919 Posts |
Thanks guys. I didn't think of the volume aspect. No way they bother looking when they send that many out.
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Pillar of the Community
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Don't worry about them searching the rolls as most do not esp goldmart and APMEX. They send Monster Boxes in sealed they don't cherry pick them. There just really isn't any extra money in MS70's in the new bullion issue. I mean I see SAE in MS70 now for $69 and MS69 for $20, just doesn't justify the cherry picking. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
919 Posts |
Again thanks to all that responded. Leaning towards APMEX as they have a wide variety compared to all others. Watching silver for a little bit here buy will end up with a roll of 09, 10, 11 and 12. Most of the big name stores seem to only carry current product. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3670 Posts |
True big name stores mostly on carry recent products as items long since no longer in mint usually carry a bit of premium for that not easy to find rare factor.....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3670 Posts |
Provident has a listing for old pour Engels gives an tens as well perhaps but they are ALWAYS out of stock;)......
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