Should We Be Allowed To Put ICCS Or CCCS In Ebay Titles?

IMHO - As far as a seller being able to describe a raw coin in the title, I strongly feel they should be allowed to. A number grade is how we grade coins. Period. It was not created by the certification companies, who make money assigning the grade they feel the coin deserves. The numbering grade system has nothing to do with the certification companies. It was created and adopted by collectors as a way to describe coins (and how to value them).

There is no sound reason to refuse a seller the ability to describe the coin in the terms that collectors use.

I give no credence to the idea that some people use that method fraudulently to fool other people so the method can not be used. IMHO - It is akin to saying some bank robberies use an automobile to "make a fast getaway", so no one should be able to use cars.

The seller can state a VF is an XF. Is that different really from saying a VF30 is an XF40? How does refusing a given type of description stop sellers from describing coins improperly using different terms?

The "real truth" should come out at the risk of my receiving low grades from ICCS. ICCS should be shut down by ebay and ebay Canada until they get a secure package. For this to happen would require many people with a common purpose. Tough, but I don't think it is impossible.

Thousands of ICCS and CCCS coins are sold on ebay every week.Too much revenue for ebay lose.They'll continue the status quo or find a way to accommodate them.

Less than 30 thousand including PCGS,CCCS,NGC, and ICCS actually sold on ebay last year. Canadian coins.

Ebay.com and ebay..ca are two different entities. I do battle with ebay.com as well as .ca every day. The PNG is the ebay.com go to organization for policy. They dictate who is a reputable TPG company. No one else. The Canadian aspect is a minor issue to ebay.com. If a Canadaian coin is listed with ICCS or CCCS in the title it can be removed. Not so if listed on ebay..ca. It is a very slow process to get co-operation from different ebay organizations. If you want to list a coin in an ICCS or CCCS holder list it on ebay..ca, in US dollars, and click will ship to USA. It will then show up on ebay.com.

ebay International owns all ebay entities but they all work independently under DIFFERING RULES.. I am not mistaken on anything I wrote above.

it is possible that TPGs "payed" for the "rights" to be one of the only "recognized names". competition laws in another country might prevent the same thing from happening there.

its also possible that a TPG owns, or is owned by another company that owns a large # of voting shares on ebay and they are in control of their own interests.