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1852 Silver 3 Cent Piece - Grade

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 Posted 02/11/2013  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list
I am at G6 details - I believe the shield is strong enough to keep it above AG, but the letters keep it from VG. Unfortunately I think there are enough hits that it would get a details grade.
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 Posted 02/11/2013  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list
Cherry pickers does list three different varieties, two repunched dates and one DDR on the stars around 5:00 on the reverse. If you think you see something there, especially on the repunched date, would you mind posting close ups of those areas? One of the RPD does carry a premium according the CP.
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 Posted 02/11/2013  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
Hello,

Because the horizontal line crossing 'under' the III does not appear on the top surface of these III letters, is it possible that a die crack or some other die anomaly has formed here?

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 Posted 02/11/2013  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list
I did not pick up on that! My best guess would be a problem with the planchet prior to strike but if I were you I would wait for error experts to chime in.

Did you have a chance to look at the date for the possible RPD?
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 Posted 02/12/2013  03:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
Hi,

Per the Cherry pickers's 5th Edit. Vol 1 that I possess the two RPDs and one DDR referred to are non existent on this coin after further inspection.

By the way is this version of Cherry pickers's 5th Edit. Vol 1 the latest update available?

If it does happen to be an older version, what is the latest Cherry pickers's volume and edition version entitled and what are the 'significant' differences from the one I I am currently using?

I just want to know if a newer version has a sufficient number of changes/additions to justify a new purchase at this point in time.

Thanks
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 Posted 02/12/2013  05:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
VG 8 would be about right.
I see far too many of these, ruined by holing.
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 Posted 02/12/2013  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list

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Because the horizontal line crossing 'under' the III does not appear on the top surface of these III letters, is it possible that a die crack or some other die anomaly has formed here?


I think it's a scratch, albeit an old scratch, that was worn down over the columns making it not appear there any more. It's consistent with the scratches on the obverse. I'd go G6 myself, but it's not as damaged as many I've come across over the years, these little coins didn't fair very well in circulation.

I also don't see any signs of the RPD but closer photos of the date area would help in that regard.
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 Posted 02/12/2013  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list
I'm also at around G6 and agree with westcoin in thinking it was an old scratch that has been worn off the |||. I love these old thrimes, but wow are they hard to grade!
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 Posted 02/12/2013  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list
mdpmedia, that was the one I was using. I do not see a 6th edition anywhere so that may be the most up to date.
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 Posted 02/13/2013  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
My grade would be VG-8/scratched. (Rationale: Everything is readable, has even wear, small gouges and rim dings, possible environmental damage obverse 2-5 o'clock?).
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 Posted 02/17/2013  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add icollectyoubuy to your friends list
Looks like a good to me
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 Posted 02/19/2013  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list

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would you mind posting close ups of those areas?


Here ya go CK.

Thanks for bringing up the potential RPD issue.

I appreciate the feedback.

mdpmedia


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 Posted 02/19/2013  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add icollectyoubuy to your friends list
Looks like a G-4
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 Posted 02/19/2013  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Letters worn into rim, scratches. Good-6 details.
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 Posted 02/21/2013  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list
I don't see the RPDs mentioned in CP - I was hopeful because I thought the 1 looked a little fat in the first set of pictures. I think I must have been looking at it too long!
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