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Moderator
 United States
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The coin in question has the little dot above the 1 in the date, characteristic of B-4. Would they think to put that there with a counterfeit? The knife damage is understandable - the right kind of gouge raises a thin line of metal which almost immediately folds back down in circulation.
Even with the scratches, a decent VF that's a pretty darn good price at the opening bid.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It doesn't look right to me. The face and the star touching the bust? Please correct my half fast opinion.  |
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United States
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gouge raises a thin line of metal which almost immediately folds back down in circulation.
That makes sense  swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with Super Dave (as per usual). Looks good for a B-4 BB-61.
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Pillar of the Community
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What's interesting is the scratch between stars 7 and 8 is into the coin, while, the x seems raised onto the surface of the coin. I wonder, since I've seen these x's on other bust dollars, if it's a scratch at all. Maybe it came from the die itself.
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Moderator
United States
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I understand perfectly why it looks raised - it likely is, a bit (see my explanation above), but now that you mention it one sees these pretty often on Early coinage. I wonder if there was some cultural reference or something.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's a beautiful coin. I don't mind the X but I wonder how it affects value. Think I'll search through Heritage's archives to see if I can find a good comparison. Will follow this auction with interest...
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I am tempted to hypothesise that the scratch marks may have been put there deliberately by the Mint, to easily identify the respective products off each die.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I believe the scratches were put there by merchants to check and see if it was silver under the first layer not by the mint
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If it is counterfeit, it's darn good. An aged transfer die copy is a possibility but I think it's genuine. It needs to be authenticated for sure. The starting bid likely reflects ebay's policy of sub-$2500 opening bids for raw coins. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Why wouldn't a coin like this be in a slab already?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I was wondering that myself, IndianGoldEagle. I know the consensus seems to be it appears authentic, why is everything else he has for sale slabbed but not this one?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks good to me as well. As for why it isn't slabbed. Could be because he just got the coin and wanted to flip it quickly. He could be selling it on consignment and the owner doesn't want to fork over the cost of sending it in or is paranoid the coin will be lost. Any number of reasons.
If I were bidding on it, I would work an agreement first that the seller send the coin straight to ANACS. The instant it comes back genuine, the funds are released and the coin comes home.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Could be a hot coin in more ways than one. That heavy rub, including the obvious scratches and the missing slab indicate potential fraud ... - in more ways than one.
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